If oneshoots a 117-120-grain bullet from a .25/'06 at 3100 FPS ora 130-grainer of identical construction at the same velocity from a .270 WIN., NO DEER (or any other critter) will be able to tell the difference when the bullet lands, including the shooter! For crap sake, there's ONLY 2-hundredths of an inch difference in their diameters........0.020"!![:@]

That 0.020 may be magic!!

Magic say you???

I like my .25-06. It doesn't have a lot of recoil and handles predators and pigs very well.

Have you ever shot a 25-06? It has much less recoil than a 30-06. And I also disagree with your comment about it's effectiveness as a whitetail round. There isn't a plug nickel's worth of difference between a 25-06 with a 120 grain bullet and a 270 with a 130 grain bullet when it comes to putting down a deer sized animal. And I have never heard anyone call a 270 a poor whitetail round. You can also drop down to 100 grain bullets for coyotes or antelope and have a very flat shooter on your hands for those critters.

No I have never shot "A" 25-06. I have shot and owned 5or6-including 2 257 WBY. Mags. So I am speaking from experience about the quarter bore. I will admit I have only shot a couple of dozen deer with the quarter bore, but I do know for sure that I was disappointed with the results.

Also you are comparing the quarter bore to the 270. I did not compare it to the 270, I compared it to the 30-06. I am not a fan of the 270 either. But as the other poster, you are also making my point by trying to compare your 25-06 to a 270-thanks for helping make my point.However if you think your 25-06 bullet is constructed as well as a 270 bullet then you are sadly mistaken.

This is the bottom line. I have been deer hunting for 35 years. I have shot a couple of hundred deer. I have been around the harvesting of well over 1,000 deer. Situations will arise, and people get excited while hunting. If every shot was the perfect broadside shot at a standing still deer drinking from a brook-then life would be great. The problem is that there are situations that arise that do not permit the perfect shot, but that do permit adequate shots for a cartridge that can handle the shot.

When I rifle hunt for deer I am strictly trophy hunting.(I do a lot of meat hunting, but all my meat hunting is done with primitive weapons, or my fun rifles). I do not want to pass up a shot because of a miniscule cartridge. Tom.

Recoil comes from the bullet weight not the cartridge.. My 243 kicks less than my 7mm08 which kicks less than my 308 but that is because I go from an 85 grain to 168 grain bullet..

25-06 is a great round.

I have killed a ton of deer with the 270 with 130's and 1 deer with the 25-06 and I believe 100 gr Sierra GK(borrowed rifle) and there was no diffrence in animal reaction.

I am still trying to figure out this statement so please enlighten me concerning bullet construction.

I am not sure what your source of information is. But there are probably at least a dozen variables involved with recoil. Bullet weight is just one of these variables. And it is on the bottom end of the scale, not the top end. I shoot a 405 grain bullet from a 45-70 that recoils less than a 150 grain from a 30-30. That sure blows a hole in your theory??? Tom.

Your comparing 2 different cartridges 45-70 to 30-30.. I am comparing the same cartridge in the 308 and it siblings.. The 7mm08 and 243.. True there are other factors involved like weight of the gun, ect. But the post above was comparing the 30-06 to the 25-06 which are also siblings.. So there is no hole in my theory..