Bolt Action Accuracy
#2
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
RE: Bolt Action Accuracy
Because you have a one piece stock which gives you a more stable platform for the barrel and breech...You can free float or add pressure points to the stock to change barrel harmonics...You can also piller bead or glass bead the action...The trigger is adjustable for creep, over travel and pull...
Is this enough or do you need more???
Is this enough or do you need more???
#3
RE: Bolt Action Accuracy
hawk, I understand your basic explanation. I think I understand why the bolt is the most accurate, but can you provide more detail on thethe physics of this concept? If I'm thinking correctly, the bolt action is the most accurate because there is no movement in the gunonce the bullet is fired. It isa somewhat difficult concept to explain.
#4
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 25
RE: Bolt Action Accuracy
ORIGINAL: dean790
hawk, I understand your basic explanation. I think I understand why the bolt is the most accurate, but can you provide more detail on thethe physics of this concept? If I'm thinking correctly, the bolt action is the most accurate because there is no movement in the gunonce the bullet is fired. It isa somewhat difficult concept to explain.
hawk, I understand your basic explanation. I think I understand why the bolt is the most accurate, but can you provide more detail on thethe physics of this concept? If I'm thinking correctly, the bolt action is the most accurate because there is no movement in the gunonce the bullet is fired. It isa somewhat difficult concept to explain.
#5
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Delaware OH USA
Posts: 534
RE: Bolt Action Accuracy
Simply put, there is a solid barrel to action connection which is strong enough that the weight of the barrel and action can be held at a single point. Usually the action is held which isolates the barrel from being held when shooting. By not over constraining(sorry bending) the barrel and/or action, it can provide the best platform for consistency. The 2 lug bolt is also not overconstrained in theory, but the sear's upward pressure slightly violates this. On a Savage, with a floating head, it is properly constrained. The way bench rest actions get around this is ultra precise machining minimizing this bending.
On a practical side, they tend to balance well. They tend to balance just under or just forward of the recoil lug with a scope. They also tend to have trigger pulls which require relatively low sear force, so the trigger pull can be more easily tuned or designed in the case of a raw factory rifle. Also, the sling doesn't pull on the barrel. If you are pulling the sling tight to hold the rifle on target, there is no pressure put on the barrel.
Ammunition fit is also better in a bolt action rifle. In general, you can make tighter fitting ammo for a bolt rifle, because the extractor's are more robust and there is more force available to feed and lock the bolt. On a semi-auto, usually small base dies are required which makes the ammo loose in the chamber. Even a break open single shot, cannot be easily forced closed like a bolt can. I have measured cases where the case was being crushed a few thousandths of an inch when closing the bolt. You couldn't tell. That would have jammed an AR and upset a Ruger #1 owner.
On a practical side, they tend to balance well. They tend to balance just under or just forward of the recoil lug with a scope. They also tend to have trigger pulls which require relatively low sear force, so the trigger pull can be more easily tuned or designed in the case of a raw factory rifle. Also, the sling doesn't pull on the barrel. If you are pulling the sling tight to hold the rifle on target, there is no pressure put on the barrel.
Ammunition fit is also better in a bolt action rifle. In general, you can make tighter fitting ammo for a bolt rifle, because the extractor's are more robust and there is more force available to feed and lock the bolt. On a semi-auto, usually small base dies are required which makes the ammo loose in the chamber. Even a break open single shot, cannot be easily forced closed like a bolt can. I have measured cases where the case was being crushed a few thousandths of an inch when closing the bolt. You couldn't tell. That would have jammed an AR and upset a Ruger #1 owner.
#6
RE: Bolt Action Accuracy
cjwink noted this on another thread relating to the same thing, and it was my understanding as well.
"Just a thought.. But you don't see target rifles in Lever Action, pump or semi autos for a reason. They are inheirently less acurate due to the trigger pull they have. They have to have a harder trigger to keep from firing again after the reload of the shell. Bolts are more accurate, more reliable and in my opion astecically more pleasing.. So don't rule them out.."
"Just a thought.. But you don't see target rifles in Lever Action, pump or semi autos for a reason. They are inheirently less acurate due to the trigger pull they have. They have to have a harder trigger to keep from firing again after the reload of the shell. Bolts are more accurate, more reliable and in my opion astecically more pleasing.. So don't rule them out.."
#7
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RE: Bolt Action Accuracy
In my humble opinion, most opinions are wrong. the bolt is about repeatability and consistency.The boltputs even pressure on the cartridge, and is consistent round after round, as the lockup is right behind thebrass. Where a lever, lockup is before the bolt. Where a breakopen,can have inconsistent pressure behind the brass due to its lockup is not even.
The bolt also can have consistent pressure on the barrel,or consistentno pressure on the barrel,where the lever, pump, or break open you cannot.
The bolt also can have consistent pressure on the barrel,or consistentno pressure on the barrel,where the lever, pump, or break open you cannot.
#9
RE: Bolt Action Accuracy
ORIGINAL: kmunny19
cjwink noted this on another thread relating to the same thing, and it was my understanding as well.
"Just a thought.. But you don't see target rifles in Lever Action, pump or semi autos for a reason. They are inheirently less acurate due to the trigger pull they have. They have to have a harder trigger to keep from firing again after the reload of the shell. Bolts are more accurate, more reliable and in my opion astecically more pleasing.. So don't rule them out.."
cjwink noted this on another thread relating to the same thing, and it was my understanding as well.
"Just a thought.. But you don't see target rifles in Lever Action, pump or semi autos for a reason. They are inheirently less acurate due to the trigger pull they have. They have to have a harder trigger to keep from firing again after the reload of the shell. Bolts are more accurate, more reliable and in my opion astecically more pleasing.. So don't rule them out.."
#10
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blissfield MI USA
Posts: 5,293
RE: Bolt Action Accuracy
I honestly don't think it matters. I have seen very accurate guns in any type of action and really innacurate guns in every action. I think it boils down to a bolt action is probably cheaper to produce so you end up with a better made gun for the money. And most bolt actions have better triggers which helps a little.
For the average shooter with a quality weapon I don't think it matters, any action has the capability of being accurate.
I think a lot of AR shooters would argue the semi auto target rifle part.
Technically a single action break open should be the most accurate.
Paul
For the average shooter with a quality weapon I don't think it matters, any action has the capability of being accurate.
I think a lot of AR shooters would argue the semi auto target rifle part.
Technically a single action break open should be the most accurate.
Paul