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Old 03-04-2008 | 07:41 AM
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just a vent, not even sure if it belongs in this thread.

i purchased a used marlin 30 30 with sling and scope on it. i am happy with the purchase price and i email the seller (gun shop in NEIGHBORING state of rhode island).. i live 20 minutes from the shop in massachusetts.

i email the gentleman stating i could be over to pick up the rifle with cash in hand. he emailed me back "due to mass. laws we do not sell directly to mass residents" paper work is too complicated"...

wow!! thats sad... i guess i understant the man policy but the laws are rediculous (im sure im preaching to the choir)

now for me to "purchase this rifle" the owner is nice enough to be willing to drive it to a neighboring gun shop in mass (5 min. from my house) price im expected to pay the "neighboring gun shop" for this transaction?? $40.00.....

i don't mind paying for a service that i don't want to do or am incapable of doing but im willing to drive the 20 min. to RI and am capable (FID card holder and have taken gun safety course) but thats massachusetts law for you...

again.. just venting
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Old 03-04-2008 | 07:56 AM
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ntcbassman,

As far as I am aware anytime there is an interstate transfer of a firearm it has to be done FFL to FFL. Most gunshops will do this for you for a minimal fee. I sold a revolver to a fella in PA last year and it couldn't have been easier. The local gunshop did the paperwork and shipped the gun for $20.00 plus the freight.

I am not a fan of the whimsical and capricious gun laws of Massachusetts and as much has I hate to say it I it is a federal reg not "The peoples Rebublic of Massachusetts" this time.

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Old 03-04-2008 | 08:05 AM
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ntcbassman,

As far as I am aware anytime there is an interstate transfer of a firearm it has to be done FFL to FFL. Most gunshops will do this for you for a minimal fee. I sold a revolver to a fella in PA last year and it couldn't have been easier. The local gunshop did the paperwork and shipped the gun for $20.00 plus the freight.

I am not a fan of the whimsical and capricious gun laws of Massachusetts and as much has I hate to say it I it is a federal reg not "The peoples Rebublic of Massachusetts" this time.

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so the way i understand it is if i walk into kittery trading post in maine, i wouldn't be able to purchase/walk out with a hunting rifle??? (they would have to ship it to a local FFL dealer?? is this correct?

* im askingfor future reference
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Old 03-04-2008 | 08:06 AM
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"As far as I am aware anytime there is an interstate transfer of a firearm it has to be done FFL to FFL."
Interstate transfers do not have to involve two FFL holders, if the seller is a private person. He/she can send the gunto the receiving FFL holder, (AFTER receiving a signed copy of that dealer's FFL), in the purchaser's state. Thepurchaser must then do the paperwork and go through the NICS check with the dealer on his end, and then pay that dealer's service fee......

so the way i understand it is if i walk into kittery trading post in maine, i wouldn't be able to purchase/walk out with a hunting rifle??? (they would have to ship it to a local FFL dealer?? is this correct?
I think this depends on the laws of both states. As a resident of NY, I have beenable to purchase rifles from FFL holders in PA, since doing so is permitted by the laws of both states and did not violate any PA or NY laws, and the NICS check is the same either place. But I could NOT purchase a handgun in PA, because NY has strict requirements you must comply with to purchase handguns, even in-state, from either dealers or private individuals.

* im askingfor future reference
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Old 03-04-2008 | 12:50 PM
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"As far as I am aware anytime there is an interstate transfer of a firearm it has to be done FFL to FFL."
Interstate transfers do not have to involve two FFL holders, if the seller is a private person. He/she can send the gun to the receiving FFL holder, (AFTER receiving a signed copy of that dealer's FFL), in the purchaser's state. The purchaser must then do the paperwork and go through the NICS check with the dealer on his end, and then pay that dealer's service fee......

so the way i understand it is if i walk into kittery trading post in maine, i wouldn't be able to purchase/walk out with a hunting rifle??? (they would have to ship it to a local FFL dealer?? is this correct?
I think this depends on the laws of both states. As a resident of NY, I have been able to purchase rifles from FFL holders in PA, since doing so is permitted by the laws of both states and did not violate any PA or NY laws, and the NICS check is the same either place. But I could NOT purchase a handgun in PA, because NY has strict requirements you must comply with to purchase handguns, even in-state, from either dealers or private individuals.

* im asking for future reference

You are right on target eld. It all depends on the laws of both states. There are certain states that reciprocate with one another. Virginia (my state) for example will sell long guns to about 15 other state residents... I don't remember them all off the top of my head, but most of your "blue" states are not among them. Reason being (if I recall) is that our backround check system is state run (that I know it is). Our state likes to keep track of its own residents as their database is more complete and smaller, making it easier to keep track of everyone. In the event of a delay, they use the NICS system, just like most other states do. Until just a few years ago, VA residents could only buy long guns in VA. Long guns purchasing restrictions are left largely up to individual states themselves.

Handguns on the other hand may only be purchased in your state of residence. That is a federal law. No exceptions. Only way to get around that is to have an FFL holder transfer to another FFL holder in your home state and take delivery there.
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Old 03-04-2008 | 05:18 PM
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good info... $40 dollar lesson learned. thanks guys
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Old 03-04-2008 | 09:31 PM
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not true here in indiana a indiana guy cna go to ky il michigen
and ohio i think
and if your a ky resident you can come to indiana to buy a rifle
this is on long guns only not handguns
also i know in ky you can go to TN and buy a long gun
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ntcbassman,

As far as I am aware anytime there is an interstate transfer of a firearm it has to be done FFL to FFL. Most gunshops will do this for you for a minimal fee. I sold a revolver to a fella in PA last year and it couldn't have been easier. The local gunshop did the paperwork and shipped the gun for $20.00 plus the freight.

I am not a fan of the whimsical and capricious gun laws of Massachusetts and as much has I hate to say it I it is a federal reg not "The peoples Rebublic of Massachusetts" this time.

Bob
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Old 03-04-2008 | 09:32 PM
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also even shipping a gun i think it must go to a ffl not come from a ffl
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Old 03-04-2008 | 11:06 PM
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also even shipping a gun i think it must go to a ffl not come from a ffl

You can actually legally mail one to yourself. As long as you are the sender and only you take delivery of the firearm and open the package. No need to transfer a firearm if the firearm isn't being transfered.
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Old 03-05-2008 | 09:55 AM
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Well I know living in Mass you can go to the kittery trading post in Maine and buy long guns but would have to have handguns shipped back I have purchased I few long guns there myself and brought them back
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