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Welcome to the board JonN...... Don't know if they are still available or not. Interarms Mark X.I have one chambered in 375 H&H and shoots well.I've had it about 20 years now.There were quite reasonable back then.
Ruger Redhawk

..... A Proud NRA Life Member since 1977 .....Ruger Redhawk

If you want a .375 H&H I suggest you don't want a cheap one.....you want a good one!!!

JonN,
375HH and inexpensive! Well no one gun has it all, but..... Consider the CZ 550 Safari Magnum..... $599 (NOT suggested retail, but available at that price). Cartridges (not calibers) available are 7mmRemMag, 300WinMag, 375HHMag, 416Rigby, and 458WinMag. Pictures and info at www.cz-usa.com I am looking at one in 416 Rigby (a few people will be surprised that I want the one that DOESN'T have "Mag" in its name).

Most folks on the African forum (www.accuratereloading.com) that I follow are buying them fast and claim quality is better than Remington or Winchester (nothing first hand on quality yet, I'm a Win-M70 fan). Downside (isn't there always something?) is the Bavarian Comb on the stock and the lack of a 3 position M70 style safety (add $150 to remedy).

A couple considerations in your 375HH quest. First, if you buy a 375 be careful on your introductory first five shots (take them standing up AND after you &quot;fit&quot; the stock). Second, don't let anyone know you have one or hunt with one. Shhhhh - don't want folks to get upset - just go kill the hell out the game and keep it to yourself. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Never Undergunned,
EKM

Good judgment comes from bad experience! Learn from the mistakes of others; you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself!



Edited by - ELKampMaster on 02/10/2003 02:29:47

EKM- Could you describe what the Bavarian Comb is, and why it may be a disadvantage? I did a little bit of googleing but didn't find much help there.

JonN,

Keep your eyes open on the used rifle rack. ElkKampMaster gave you a little clue, lots of 'em don't get shot much and can be had reasonable.

I have been in on two purchases, my buddy got a Winchester Classic Synthetic for $400.00 and probably hadn't been shot 10 times. I bought me a Browning ABolt Stainless Stalker for $500.00 and I love it. My dad used it to kill his big 8 pointer this year in Missouri.

Haven't really had much time to play with it, but am looking forward to a long and happy relationship.

KC

Cal,
Bavarian Comb is a stock shape favored by some in europe. Near the butt end of the stack it &quot;turns down&quot;. A less kind name for the Bavarian Comb is &quot;hog back&quot;. If you go to the CZ web site and look at the rifle picture you'll see what I mean. Theoretically it is supposed to line up iron sights to the hunters sightline more easily and put the butt of the stock a little lower in the meat of the shoulder rather than upwards towards the bones of the shoulder and collar. The &quot;American Sporter&quot; on the other hand is more of a &quot;straight line&quot; stock and favors scope shooting. There have been quite a few folks who planned to buy CZ 550 Safari Magnums and restock them automatically but once they tried the &quot;hogback stock&quot; they ended up liking it (or were short of money for the restock).

Bolt, I was assuming new rifles; however, you are right about used guns. I have nothing against a good used rifle. If you are patient, especially this time of year, you can pick up a used 375 quite reasonable. Even folks that love their 375's don't tend to shoot tons of rounds through them - thats the varmit folks (which WILL sharpen you up by the way).

The &quot;turn rate&quot; here in the lower 48 for anything over 338 runs pretty high. Lots of folks get a &quot;wild hair&quot;, buy a 375 for grins, expect to treat it like granddaddy's deer rifle, go to the range ignorant of what they're handling, take their first shots at the bench shooting at paper (worst place for get kicked by any caliber) and get &quot;spanked&quot; in the process - poor technique, stumble in and stumble out - then they cash in the rifle and go back to the mild stuff that allows one get away with poor technique and poor fit. Good news is it does mean a fair supply of near new, inexpensive big bores for those that know how to handle them. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Never Undergunned,
EKM

Good judgment comes from bad experience! Learn from the mistakes of others; you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself!

This past year I had the privledge of being givin a Winchester Pre 64 .375 H&H Magnum by a friend of my mothers. Impressive rifle, and impressive shooting, very accurate to boot. But......even though I was prepared for the recoil.......I was not as prepared as I thought even though I had it braced well. And although I was shooting from a standing stance, as EKM has suggested......still got &quot;spanked&quot; on the first shot! The bruise was lovely. LOL Someone can tell you about the recoil but....you never know til you actually shoot one. Its truely an awesome firearm and one I am very happy to have.

I have been to the range with it several times since, once you know what to expect from the recoil, its a great gun. But about 5/10 rounds is all I can handle at a time. My feeling is that if I have it, I had better know how to use it, and use it well.....<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> That said, outside of shooting it to maintain proficiency from time to time..... I will leave it in the gun safe unless I go hunting for Grizzly Bear or Elephant. Think I'll stick to my 30.06 for Whitetail, Elk, or Moose or other large game. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Edited by - Christine B on 02/10/2003 11:37:24

Christine B,
I am impressed! You obviously know how to handle a rifle - even if its a handful!

Nothing to apologize for not shooting much more than 5 or 10 rounds at a setting! 375HH is NOT a rifle for pleasure shooting! If the bullet hits where it is supposed to, then it means (a) you don't have a flinch, (b) the rifle is still sighted in, and (3) you've renewed your familiarity with the rifle to the extent it won't surprise you later. Stop there and put it away until you need it, always nice to have at least one &quot;bad boy&quot; in the gun safe for special ocassions.

Sorry about the shoulder bruise. You may well be &quot;on to&quot; this one.... When hunting one usually has the layers of &quot;keep warm&quot; clothing to disperse the impact of recoil over a wider area; on a warm day at the range with just a shirt it helps to wear a shoulder protector to &quot;re-create&quot; those closing layers and &quot;spread&quot; the impact to an area wider than the butt of the stock.

I agree with you whole heartedly about matching the rifle to the game being hunted. Also nice to have enough depth in your gun rack that you can equip a son/daughter/friend with one of your rifles and not find yourself personally undergunned due to lack of choices - you've got some &quot;firepower&quot; reserves you can dip into. Your gun rack as it now stands will let you competently take on some pretty big stuff -- any chance you're going to Africa? <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

By the way, I hope its okay if I use you as a &quot;reference&quot;, &quot;.... I even know a lady who owns and shoots a 375 from time to time&quot;. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
The only other one I know is Jessica Treu (416 RemMag).

Never Undergunned
EKM

Good judgment comes from bad experience! Learn from the mistakes of others; you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself!

Edited by - ELKampMaster on 02/10/2003 14:01:34

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