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anyone else buy one of these yet? or have shot one? i think she has been one of the worst kicking rifles i have ever owned/shot.

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I don't think it is the cartridge so much as the gun. The Winchester and Marlin lever action stocks are about the worst you can get for recoil. I shoot a hot loaded 45-70 out of an H&R that should be pushing about the same as a 450 Mar and I can do it all day. I'm a little sore afterwards but if I go to the range and come back without a little soreness I feel like I haven't even been.

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I on wath your talking about a frind of mine just got a 450 and that thing will jar your teeth loss it kicks so hard that it made me mad enoff to figth after I shoot it

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Quilly,
I use my 45-70 with the winchester factory 300 JHP. The recoil on it isn't bad at all, and that round will put any deer/black bear down hard out to 200 yds. And you can always buy the premium ammo when hunting larger animals.

If I were you, i'd either trade for a 45-70 or look at a pachmayer decelerator pad. The people on the Marlin Talk forum swear by them on their 450's and hot loaded 45-70's.

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I got a 450 Marlin in the 1871Ultra Rifle,load 300gr jhp to max load. It kicks just aliitle harder than a 30-06 and less than my 300Weatherby Mag in a Mark-5. Zeak

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all im gonna say is OUCH after looking at those recoil numbers above me

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i figured it would be up there. i was afraid to use it in my tree stand due to shouldering it in weird angle shots. i really don't shoot her as much as when i first bought it.

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my buddy does have a 45-70 marlin ( non ported ) and he uses win 300gr. JHP. it does kick almost like the 450marlin but less sharpness to it.
i knew she was gonna kick and i will be only using it in the future on bear hunts. i would like to see how she does on black bear in maine. the real problem i did have before i decided to go with a peep was looking for a good scope with long eye relief and one that would not loose it's zero.

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Quilly, I owned a 45-70 for several years to hunt hogs. I weigh about 155 lbs. and had to sell the gun because of recoil. I cut my eye two times at the shooting range and flinched every time I shot more than three shots. I am use to the recoil of guns and have owned many makes and sizes. The 450 has more kick than the 45-70. I believe with a muzzle break and good recoil pad the gun should be manageable for a person 180 - 200 lbs.

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it's not fun. don't shoot it that much.but i keep it as my truck gun.

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I have a .45/70 load using the Barnes Original 400-grain semispitzer @ 2270 FPS @ 15' from the muzzle (Ruger No. 1.) I have to loop my left index finger over the barrel in front of the scope when shooting it from the bench to keep it from jumping off the shooting bag. Leupold is the only brand of scope I have tried on this rig that isn't disassembled by recoil after two or three rounds. Needless to say, I have settled on a much milder load for general hunting and target shooting with this rig. But, were I to go after moose or Kodiak bear with this rifle, I would use this load. It shoots three shots into one ragged hole @ 100 yards. Three shots is about all I can stand to shoot at any one range session....(recoil is in the 55 Ft.Lb. range)!!!

Keep yore powder dry!!

Edited by - eldeguello on 02/02/2003 11:04:29

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A lot of people enjoy shooting heavy recoiling firearms. They take more skill to shoot accurately.

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For a non-handloader, is there any reason to buy the 450 Marlin, as the 45-70 has both hot and moderate loadings available? Seems to me the 450 is going to beat you up unless you can make some moderate handloads for practice/deer hunt. On the marlin site, everyone recommends the 450 if you don't handload, but aren't there hot loads for the 45-70 commercially available?? What am I missing, I am very interested in getting one or the other in a guide gun.....