Kid friendly caliber
11-17-2007, 10:38 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Coralville, IA. USA
Posts: 3,802
RE: Kid friendly caliber
If you ever read a magazine that reviews a product and says it is a piece of crap, subscribe to the magazine!
But I digress...!
Mike
11-18-2007, 01:50 AM
#12
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location:
Posts: 375
RE: Kid friendly caliber
When my son is ready I had been thinking about the 243 win. Remington's managed recoil ammo didn't really come to my mind but that's a good idea. My only concern is that different rifles prefer different ammo and one rifle might shoot a load extremely well and another shoot sub par groups. If the remington managed recoil was the only ammo that my son could handle out of a 308 I would be concerned that his gun might not shoot it accurately. That's why most people reccomend shooting several loads out of a gun to find out what it shoots best
11-18-2007, 08:03 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: central Ky
Posts: 2,867
RE: Kid friendly caliber
The 7mm08 is a lot more versaitle than the .243. I started my babygirl out with a 7mm08 at age of 12 and every deer she's shot at went down with 1 shot-it didn't pass go-it didn't collect 200 dollars-they went straight down.
11-18-2007, 10:20 AM
#15
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
RE: Kid friendly caliber
Bud...Guess I'm still a kid, at 52 and 6ft 5 inches and 255 pounds...I'm still shooting a .243, its all you need for deer...I have killed over 150 with this gun, 6 black bears and tons of groundhogs, coyotes, crows and various other varmints that didn't have any business on our farms...
The sweet thing about this gun, I can buy a case of 100gr CoreLokts @ $13.88 a box from WalMart and shoot all year long...Its recoil is light enough that I never loose sight of the deer and accurate enough that you can drop a deer in its tracks with a bullet through the shoulder blade...
The sweet thing about this gun, I can buy a case of 100gr CoreLokts @ $13.88 a box from WalMart and shoot all year long...Its recoil is light enough that I never loose sight of the deer and accurate enough that you can drop a deer in its tracks with a bullet through the shoulder blade...
11-18-2007, 11:15 AM
#16
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamiltucky, OH
Posts: 485
RE: Kid friendly caliber
ORIGINAL: driftrider
Amen to that!
Not to mention that it's vitally important to protect his hearing. All CF firearms are loud enough to cause some amount of PERMANENT hearing damage, even with one shot. If your ears ring after the shot, you've lost some of your hearing FOREVER. You might not be able to perceive the loss, but the damage is cumulative and will get a little worse every time it happens (trust me on this, I speak from experience). The good habits he learns now about wearing good hearing protection will save his hearing years from now.
Mike
ORIGINAL: Ideaman
All of the above Ideas and calibers are great suggestions. I like theNEF single shot in 45-70. As a newer shooter make sure your son wears hearing protection, almost all of the bad shooting habits I see come from noise, not recoil. Kids are tough.
All of the above Ideas and calibers are great suggestions. I like theNEF single shot in 45-70. As a newer shooter make sure your son wears hearing protection, almost all of the bad shooting habits I see come from noise, not recoil. Kids are tough.
Not to mention that it's vitally important to protect his hearing. All CF firearms are loud enough to cause some amount of PERMANENT hearing damage, even with one shot. If your ears ring after the shot, you've lost some of your hearing FOREVER. You might not be able to perceive the loss, but the damage is cumulative and will get a little worse every time it happens (trust me on this, I speak from experience). The good habits he learns now about wearing good hearing protection will save his hearing years from now.
Mike
Coincident with choosing a cartridge, I'd have him choose the gun which fits him best.He mayfeel less recoil, evenwith a beefier cartridge, if the gun fits him well.
My marksmanship was never anything to brag about, so that's probably why I recommend people start above the .243 for a deer cartridge. The real shooters out there know that the .243 is more than adequate for deer. Personally, though, I suggest people start with the .257 Roberts or .25-06. These cartridgeshave scarcely more recoil than the .243, but they do offer some range/energy increases.
AND THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING A YOUTH TO HUNTING!!!!
FC
11-18-2007, 11:01 PM
#17
Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Iowa
Posts: 63
RE: Kid friendly caliber
7mm-08.
My son just turned 11 and weighs 63 lbs and can shoot 140 corelocks all day without being bothered by the recoil. It's a youth sps and came with a limbsaver pad. Like stated above, fit is the important part. Once you decide on a caliber, go let him hold each brand of gun to see what feels right to him.
My son just turned 11 and weighs 63 lbs and can shoot 140 corelocks all day without being bothered by the recoil. It's a youth sps and came with a limbsaver pad. Like stated above, fit is the important part. Once you decide on a caliber, go let him hold each brand of gun to see what feels right to him.
11-19-2007, 07:38 AM
#18
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 12,040
RE: Kid friendly caliber
ORIGINAL: LOUISIANA WHITETAILS
.243 WIN
.243 WIN
11-19-2007, 07:57 AM
#19
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
Posts: 6,270
RE: Kid friendly caliber
quote]ORIGINAL: jeepkid
.243 Win, or 6mm Rem.
[/quote]
I agree with this recommendation. In addition, I recommend that in addition to the hunter safety course, that you provide him with some marksmanship training with whatever rifle you choose, and let him demonstrate his proficiency with the rifle BEFORE he shoots at a live target (if you haven't already done this.) For this purpose, I see nothing wrong with a good, accurate single-shot rifle. (I personally have no use for any of the fast-shooting guns such as a semi-auto, lever action, or pump for hunting. Generally, when you miss with the first shot, you don't get a second one! He might like a NEF single-shot.) The comment about the LOUD NOISE made by a hP rifle often being more significant than the actual recoil is a valid one! I was afraid to try a .30/'06 when I was a kid, because I just KNEW anything that made that much noise was going to hurt like hell! Same for a 2" .357 Magnum!!
.243 Win, or 6mm Rem.
[/quote]
I agree with this recommendation. In addition, I recommend that in addition to the hunter safety course, that you provide him with some marksmanship training with whatever rifle you choose, and let him demonstrate his proficiency with the rifle BEFORE he shoots at a live target (if you haven't already done this.) For this purpose, I see nothing wrong with a good, accurate single-shot rifle. (I personally have no use for any of the fast-shooting guns such as a semi-auto, lever action, or pump for hunting. Generally, when you miss with the first shot, you don't get a second one! He might like a NEF single-shot.) The comment about the LOUD NOISE made by a hP rifle often being more significant than the actual recoil is a valid one! I was afraid to try a .30/'06 when I was a kid, because I just KNEW anything that made that much noise was going to hurt like hell! Same for a 2" .357 Magnum!!
11-19-2007, 08:05 AM
#20
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Fingerlakes Region of New York State
Posts: 173
RE: Kid friendly caliber
All the above are great choises, but no one metioned a 30-30. Usually the rifles are lite and easy to handle for a 12 year old with very little recoil or noise.