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Caliber Of The Week.
Howaboutthe.338-378for this weekscaliber? Pretty dang stronground. Beenthinkingabout abig bad round to build around this might be the one.
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ORIGINAL: Swampdog Howaboutthe.338-378for this weekscaliber? Pretty dang stronground. Beenthinkingabout abig bad round to build around this might be the one. |
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Probably one of the hardest kicking and loudest rifles ever made too.;)
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Howaboutthe.338-378for this weekscaliber? Pretty dang stronground. Beenthinkingabout abig bad round to build around this might be the one. Do any of your guys asking all of these "caliber" questions, even know the difference between a "cartridge" and a "caliber"??? DM |
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I started this thread for fun. Also so that some of us really dumb-ass people might could learn a little about different rounds, bullets,calibers,cartridges,or whatever you want to call them.I was not going for the politically correct approach.Some of the ones who visit this site may not have ever heard of the .17 Remington or of the Zipper or the list can go on for ever.Maybe they will find out about something new to them and keep an older "round" alive. Who knows "I" might even find out what a Wasp ,Bee,Hornet,Stinger,Jaybird,Catbird ,or a T-Rex is.............
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That's great that you come here to learn, so do i... Why not start outby learningthe most elementary terms when it comes to firearms and cartridges.
In "simple" terms, "caliber" refers to the diameter of the bore/bullet, and the "cartridge" is the brass case thatdrives that bullet down the bbl... For instance, the .338 by 378 refers to the "cartridge"but the caliber is .338. That also happens to be the diameter of the bullet... (.338") If you come here to learn, i hope you won't be offended when someone tries to point out the difference to you and maybe teach you something along the way... There's nothing wrong with not knowing something, but there is with not wanting to learn the correct info about it. BTW, the 338 by 378 has so much recoil and muzzle blast thati'll pass on owning one! I guess i'm a wimp when it comes to that! DM |
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DM ,Maybe I just took you wrong.I'll just go with Round of the week.I know the difference between caliber and cartridge.I might even know a little bit more than I let on.But that is besides the point.This is just for everybody to have something to talk about.Likes, dislikes,etc. As everyone knows firearms generally are not about what you need but what you want or like.I like them all and want all of them.;)Some of my friends and I had a game going on one time where we were trying to see who could do the most damage and explosion on frozen gallon milk jugs.You would not believe some of the stuff that showed up.When it was all over with a 45-70 with really heavy bullets and black powder did the best job over big magnums and everything else.Who da thunk it.Now we are playing .22 rimfire games.
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RE: Caliber Of The Week.
 ORIGINAL: DM Howaboutthe.338-378for this weekscaliber? Pretty dang stronground. Beenthinkingabout abig bad round to build around this might be the one. Do any of your guys asking all of these "caliber" questions, even know the difference between a "cartridge" and a "caliber"??? DM That's great that you come here to learn, so do i... Why not start outby learningthe most elementary terms when it comes to firearms and cartridges. So back to the topic: I think for personal reasons I would prefer the 30-378 weatherby. |
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Swampdog,
I haven't ever heard of the .338-.378 Weatherby until you brought it up. So I looked in my Cartridges of the World (Everyone needs this). If I remember from reading last night it is quite the cartridge. It started as a wildcat from the .338 (I think...could be wrong here). Suitable for any North American game. Actually too much for many situations. But still it seemed impressive. Ahhh Yea here it is.... The .338-378 Weatherby Magnum started out as the wildcat cartridge, .338-378 Keith-Thompson Magnum during the early 1960s. Keith and Thompson are Elmer Keith and Bob Thompson. The 338-378 Keith-Thompson Magnum is slightly shorter than the .338-378 Weatherby Magnum. However this is only a neck length issue of about eighty-thousandths of an inch. The .338-378 Weatherby Magnum was added to the Weatherby product line in 1998. The .338-378 Weatherby Magnum’s parent case is the .378 Weatherby Magnum. The .338-378 Weatherby Magnum is created by necking down the .378 Weatherby Magnum to 8.59 mm (.338 in) then fire forming it in the rifle chamber. The .338-378 Weatherby Magnum has a case capacity of about 8.1 g (125 gr). Bullets commercially available for the .338-378 Weatherby Magnum range from: 11.7 g (180 gr) to 19.4 g (300 gr) in the construction of; boat-tail hollow-point; boat-tail pointed soft; pointed soft point; heavy jacketed pointed soft point; partition; multi-core; truncated solid and monolithic solid. The .338-378 Weatherby Magnum’s main appeal is long-range shooting. A Weatherby factory cartridge loaded with a 16.2 g (250 gr) hunting bullet, in a rifle with a 71 cm (28 in) barrel will yield a muzzle velocity of 933 m/s (3060 ft/s) and muzzle energy of 7046 J (5197 ft·lbf). This same bullet will carry a down range velocity to 457 m (500 yd) of 648 m/s (2125 ft/s) and energy of 3391 J (2501 ft · lbf). A hand loaded .338-378 Weatherby Magnum used for 1000 yd target shooting loaded with a 19.4 g (300 gr) boat-tail hollow point from a rifle with a 71 cm (28 in) target barrel will yield a muzzle velocity of 917 m/s (3010 ft/s), at 914 m (1000 yd) will carry a down range velocity of 590 m/s (1936 ft/s) and at 1372 m (1500 yd) will still be carrying a supersonic down range velocity of 462 m/s (1517 ft/s). The .338-378 Weatherby Magnum is appropriate for taking American Elk (cervas canadensis) size game, Brown Bears and Polar Bears on the North American, European and Asian continents. In Africa the 338-378 Weatherby Magnum is appropriate for taking medium, antelope size game to the big five game. However some African countries ban sub 10.16 mm (.40 in) cartridges for hunting some big five game. The free recoil of the 338-378 Weatherby Magnum from a (11 lb) rifle (including magazine rounds, scope, base and rings) is 73 J (54 ft · lbf) as compared to an average 27 J (20 ft · lbf) from a rifle chambered for .30-06 Springfield. I love learning new stuff. Dude good post. Can't wait till you do another one next week. ;) |
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Lots of recoil. Both the cartridge and on this thread.:D
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Stop being a jackass! Why is it being a J.Ass to point out the difference and try tohelp them know the difference? If they are going to talk guns to their friends, (who also may not know the difference) they may as well talk intelligent, and get them started off on the right foot too... DM |
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I'm going to go the other way and nominate the venerable .30-06 Springfield. Great for everything on hooves on the North American continent, just pick the right bullet for the job at hand. It'll also do well in a pinch vs. the big bears if one comes looking for you, but a big bore would be a better choice if you're actually out looking for them. Unfortunately, the truth is that even the '06 is more than some shooters can honestly handle from a lightweight rifle.
Super-magnums like the .XXX-378 Wby Mags are interesting because they are rare, exotic and offer astonishing performance, but do little that a much smaller and more reasonable round hasn't already been doing for decades (almost 102 years for the '06). There is a good reason that there are at least 100 rifles chambered for .30-06 for every one chambered for a super-mag, and it's not because the '06 is underpowered. Mike |
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Driftrider,The 30.06 might be next week.I don't know yet ,But thanks for the input.Like I said this is just a fun for guns post.I expect when I get to the 30.06 it will go wild;).Right now I am trying to go big then little.If someone else would like to add their "ROUND"of the week .That would be great.I just thought this would be fun.
Ridge! It's not going to be long untill I get to our 7MM STW  |
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ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner drift comparing the 06 to the 338/378 or its proverbial twinn the 338 kubla kahne, is like comparing a renault to a lambrogini diablo, there both cars but it starts and ends there. the big 338's will stay supersonic to just past 2 miles, try the 30/06, it'll barely make 1200 yards. any rifle that fires a heavy bullet at high velocity will recoil, but thats easily fixed. RR I can honestly say that any cartridge with "-378 Wby Mag" in it's name won't find it's way into my safe. The only Wby I'm really remotely interested in is the .257 Wby, but the .25-06 is close enough that I can't justify the extra cost of the Wby. Just my opinion. Mike |
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Bigpappa,Thanks for the history of this "ROUND".If you guy's want to pick out next weeks .Hell don't wait for me.:DI am as interested in what everybody likes as the next.
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Naw man it's your tread I'm not gonna tread on it. Make your pick. I'll investagate for you.;)
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Well, we did get more out of this one than we did out of the .17 Remington.........Hee,Hee,Hee,
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I just hope we never put the 17hmr on this ,I am sick of hearing about it.Is it better then the .22wmr ,which is the best for coyotes ,come on.
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oh c'mon Dan you know the 17 HMR will knock a yote into next week from 267 yards....Zrexpilot does it all the time:D:D:D
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My cartridge of the week is gonna be a wild cat ive been thinking about for sometime now. .20 AI Hornet. whatcha think of that?
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ORIGINAL: DM Stop being a jackass! Why is it being a J.Ass to point out the difference and try tohelp them know the difference? If they are going to talk guns to their friends, (who also may not know the difference) they may as well talk intelligent, and get them started off on the right foot too... DM A quick and simple explaination could have been, "Hey, thats cartridge has alot of recoil and muzzle blast so not for me, but I assume you meant cartridge, not caliber, am I right?". I bet ya, it wouldn't have been taken as JA or rude. Just a thought.;) |
RE: Caliber Of The Week.
ORIGINAL: DM Howaboutthe.338-378for this weekscaliber? Pretty dang stronground. Beenthinkingabout abig bad round to build around this might be the one. Do any of your guys asking all of these "caliber" questions, even know the difference between a "cartridge" and a "caliber"??? DM |
RE: Caliber Of The Week.
ORIGINAL: DM Howaboutthe.338-378for this weekscaliber? Pretty dang stronground. Beenthinkingabout abig bad round to build around this might be the one. Do any of your guys asking all of these "caliber" questions, even know the difference between a "cartridge" and a "caliber"??? DM |
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Just to beat a dead horse, check out how Remington classifies its rifles. I was checking out the "cartriges" the CDL is offered in, and noticed that they refered to it as "caliber". So Who's right?
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_CDL_specs.asp |
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Just to beat a dead horse, check out how Remington classifies its rifles. I was checking out the "cartriges" the CDL is offered in, and noticed that they refered to it as "caliber". So Who's right? When someone ask something like, "Will my 7mm kill a moose?" What's the NEXT question that you see for an answer????????? Everyone wants to know WHAT 7mm??? BUT, When someone ask "Will my 7mm Rem. Mag. kill a moose?" NO ONE ask, what caliber is it???? They wouldn't ask if someonewanted to knowif a 30-06 will kill a moose either, but what if they asked if their 30 cal. could kill a moose??? Is ita 30 carbine they are asking about,or a 30-06 they are asking about? In my mind that pretty much answers your question... My origional point was to try to get some of the new less experienced guys all on the same page to sound a bit more knowledgable. But,apparently having more knowledge on something as simple as this offends some of you. So i guess you'd rather wade through post after post with folks trying to figure out what cartridge posters are refering to when asking about calibers??? DM |
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The CARTRIDGE HERE is the .378 Weatherby case necked down to fire .338 CALIBER bullets...... I guess the point i was trying to make flew right by most here, and that's fine... DM |
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ORIGINAL: DM The CARTRIDGE HERE is the .378 Weatherby case necked down to fire .338 CALIBER bullets...... I guess the point i was trying to make flew right by most here, and that's fine... DM |
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I hear ya HDW how is the weather in Ar. We are getting ready for a great deer season here starts sat. and I an pumped up.
DM I like what you have to say most of the it just comes off wrong for some reason.You are a very knowledgeable man just be alittle more tactful. |
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weathers been weird been makin it hard to get the 20 on the yotes its dry as usuall but the mornings have been quite frigid but we are still getting into the 80s and 90s in the afternoon. we should be in the 50s and have had some snow by now. we've got a fire about 5 miles away luckily its on the other side of the mountain and its somewhat contained but we are in dire need of some moisture. always good to know what going on over there take care
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