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I just moved to a county where they allow hunting with rifles, mostly have hunted with a shotgun my whole life. I just bought my first rifle, a fairly cheap mossberg 4x4. However, I was just curious, those of you who know a lot about fine rifles, what would be your rifle of choice for Deer Hunting, if money was not a factor. Would it be a Kimbra or maybe Weatherby mark v? Also, what caliber?

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Luxus Sigarm Blaser in .270 or 30-06. But any $500 rifle will do the job and the deer won't know the difference.

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$354 Savage.243 that comes with a scope. That is what I bought, and money wasn't a problem.

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If $$$ were no object, I'd STILL get the rifle that fit me best. I've held some beautiful, and expen$ive,rifles that just felt awkward. On the other hand, I've held some factory guns that felt like my favorite pair of jeans. There's no question which one is going to make me feel more comfortable in the field.

Mygo-to rifle is a Remington CDL. Not the super-fanciest rifle in the world, but whenever I hold that rifle - I just smile. I suppose I could justify buying fancy-looking guns if I was going to display them around the house, but I keep all my weapons in a safe. Besides, I don't keep any friends who'd be impressed by the things that I have.

That being said, the most wonderful-feeling rifle I've ever held is a Griffin & Howe customin 7x57.Shouldering that gun is like waking up from a freakin' wet dream.A gun like that would definitely cost a few more rupees than a CDL, but it wouldn't kill a deer any more dead.

FC

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First, choose your caliber, me I would choose 270 WSM for mule deer. Next, pick the style of hunting. I usually spend time in the backwoods and want a stainless/synthetic mountain style that weighs less than 7 1/2 lbs scoped. Next, and most important, pick a rifle that fits you when you shoulder it. I looked at many rifles before I bought mine, had a budget that would buy most of them. When I first started looking, I was leaning towards an HS Precision with Swarovski glass. What I bought was a Sako 75 (300WSM) and have never looked back. 6 months later, I have my local dealer looking for me a Sako 85 (270WSM). Weatherby took honorable mention.

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Well heck... since you're buyin' Jagdwaffen-just

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I like the way you think... only I'd get the K-95 Stutzen, with scroll relief engraving and octagonal barrel... and in 7x57 (I love my 7-08.. but when buying german... buy a german round too you know? Not a nickle worth of difference in them anyway). Top it with a 6x42 Schmidt and Bender... what more could you ever want. (its just almost too pretty to hunt with though!)

Infact, here is one for sale now... my birthday isn't til April... but I'll take it early ;)

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=82820279

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This is why I hunt with a Savage. If I scratch it or whatever it is not a major problem. On top of that I can buy 2 dozens Savage for the price of Stutzen.

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if money was no object id have a custom rifle built. depending on my uses for it and my hunting style would dictate which direction i went with it all...

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I like the looks of the Nosler 48 rifles. I take mine in the 280ai.

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If I could buy anything I wanted it would be what I have now a cz-550 in 6.5X55 this gun has never let me down and will kill anything I aim at.

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If you want a "fine" rifle, any Blaser R-93 or Sauer 202 would fit the bill.

I have a Blaser R-93 Offroad Tracker in 308, and a Sauer 202 Outback in 270 Win, and both are superior to ANY of the American made rifles that I have owned or handled. The Blaser Tracker has rifle sights, and I am keeping it that way. The Sauer 202 is wearing a Swarovski AV 3-9x36mm.

I have a trade in the works with a friend for a Sauer 202 Outback in 22-250, which will be topped with a Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x50mm.

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Yes they are good.

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I would buy a Browning A-bolt Hunter in the .243 caliber and a Browning Medallion in the WSM .270 bolt action!

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If money were no object I'd simply have my Ithaca LSA65 redone to like new condition.
It's as nice as I could ever want or need. This rifle fits so well it seems impossible to miss with, and I cant recall ever letting a deer escape while useing it.
It was severly damaged in a house fire 30 years ago and destroyed the stock finish and also ruined the bluing on the metal. The gunsmith my insurance insisted I use to repair my guns really screwed me over and it hasn't been the same since, shoots great but looks like hell !

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Good question. I like the classics, so probably something along the lines of a Wyatt Earp pistol, or a Winchester mdl 94 pre 64 rifle with stock peep sites in stainless with saddle ring. But as soon as I had either of those I know that I would just have another rifle of want/need lol.

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I spent 4 years in Germany and let me tell you, their guns are amazing. That being said, I saw some awful pictures of some Blaser rifles whose bolts had failed and ripped through the shooters face. Take alook at the bolt design if you havent seen one, doesnt give me a warm fuzzy!Im sure they have fixed the problem but it still swayed me into buying a Sauer 202....I got it at half the price you would pay here in the states.

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I have seen the pictures of the Blaser "bolt failure" and truly believe that there is much more to the story that was not told. I have owned 6 Blaser R-93's over the years and put hundreds of rounds down range without a problem. My Tracker 308 is a keeper, and if my head gets blown off tomorrow, it will be pilot error not mechanical difficulty.

I am relatively new to Sauers, but I am very impressed with their stock design and fit and finish. The bolt movement is like melted butter.

I bought my Sauer 202 270 Win used and only gave $1450 shipped, and I am only going to have $1200 in the 22-250 that I am trading for. I am not proud of the fact, but I paid $1300 just for the barrel on my Blaser Tracker.

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I have used the Blaser and I am confident that the bolt is completely safe. I must admit I had to look into the mechanical details to acquire a high level of confidence. The action is really smooth. What I like to do is to use a left handed action (I am right handed shooter). I press the trigger with my right hand finger and manage the action with the left hand. When you are on the bench or prone that method allows you to shoot really fast! Not required for hunting but fun.

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I think you may be surprised about how well that Mossberg will shoot. They may not be the most expensive, but they are well-built and accurate guns.

If I were able to afford it, the rifle I currently admire most is the Dakota Model 10 single-shot. A friend of mine has one in 7X57mm, and he let me hold it! It is the sweetest feeling and handling rifle I have yet to touch. In addition, it is extremely beautiful, and very accurate to boot!

Another rifle I greatly admire is the Mannlicher Schoenauer, and there is now a fellow in Austria custom-making them again. The price is a little steep, at around $7,000 US. Take a look! http://www.eschoder.com/english/english-index.htm

Caliber: .308, .30/'06, .280 Rem., .270 Win, or 7X57mm Mauser. Any of these are good deer rounds. With the riight bullet, any of them are good for elk, black bear, caribou,and moose as well. For really big bears, I want at least a .338 Win. Better yet, a .375 H&H or .416 Rigby!

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CZ 550 American, 270 Win. Bushnell 3200 3x9x40 scope.

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That's very true. You don't have to spend a fortune on a gun to have one that shoots good. A friend of mine was shooting sporting clays and the guys he was shooting with all had high dollar shotguns and he was shootinga Baikal O/U. One of his friends who doesn't shoot asked him how he was able to outshoot the other guys and he told him that it doesn't matter who much a gun costs if it fits you good. If a $300 rifle fits you better than a $3000 one you will be more comfortable shooting the cheaper one.

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Agreed, I have used the Mossberg shotgun. Very nice gun for the price. I will likely buy one soon.

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This has to be the most boring "if money was no object" thread that I have ever seen. I find it hard to believe that CZ, Savage, and Mossberg are anyone's dream firearms brands.

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Nobody said they were dream firearms. We just said for the price of one of our dream firearm, we could get a dozen or two of those, which by the way are very decent firearms.

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Ditto.....

I'd be much embarrassed to even paddle my Ol' Towne with a Savage or a Mossberg.

Pretty hip on what I own at present, a selection of customized Ruger #1's and 77's,and Remington 700's....all in classic chamberings.

But what I savvyas a do-all "deer rifle" is a NULA left handed shortaction in 25 Souper. Cerekoted in Sniper Gray...matte of course.Topped with a turreted M86X Leupy mounted in Talley LW's,and dropped in a Micky Mountain.

Throated and set up specifically for the 100 grain TSX.

No regrets........................

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Rick Bin would do the Picasso work on the McMillian...BTW.

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I never said that the guns mentioned weren't "decent" guns, but even the mention of those brands in a thread like this is a joke.

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all i want is a winchester pre 64 30-30, with a 3-9-40 scope, but i mainly hunt with a shotgun too, so i have all shotguns, excep for the bow and ML.

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Savage 300 WSM or T/C Encore 300 Win Mag

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retrieverman, your dreams are more like houlutionations to some of us! I for one have a realistic outlook on life where my families health is the most important thing to me!
I don't dream of a Merciedes, Lexus or Audi, I'm a Chevy type person.
If all this German stuff( guns and cars ect.) is so superior to our Mossburgs and Savages and chevy's then how did we with our inferior infastructure whip their a-- in two world wars and I'm quite sure we could do it again.
Yes I do know that Lexus isn't German but I did use it to make a point.
I do own three Savage rifles and any of them will do better than moa, all without taking a second mortgage on my home, this is a dream come true when your income is as meager as mine.

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Do any of you read the original thread, or do you spout of for sake of spouting off? The guy already mentioned Kimber and Weatherby. Those rifles are $1000+ I do agree w/ retrieverman. This thread has turned into a turd push! I hardly doubt that any of you would rather take a Savage over one of the customs mentioned in this thread. If you would, quite frankly you’re an idiot. That’s right, someone who is not educated enough to make a rational decision. Don’t confuse the issue because of ignorance.

A lot of us have spouses, kids, and other obligations, so don’t take me wrong, but I am 40 something and hunt every year and bought my first rifle this year. I saved for over 10 years and spent over $2200 (I had budgeted $5000). I don’t think that Bull543 wants to buy 14 rifles instead of one. Maybe Bull543 is asking a genuine question and would like a bit of input in selecting a quality rifle. Maybe he has the resources to purchase what ever he wants. It sounds like he is not familiar w/ rifles because of where he came from and is looking for some quality input. If someone one asks you for input on a sports car, I hope you don’t say Saturn cause you can buy 5 of them for the price of a Corvette!

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I don't believe a couple of you've read all the previous posts. The rifles I mentioned are quality pieces-VERY quality pieces, both the Dakota M 10 and the Mannlicher-Schoenauer. CZ, Savage, and Mossberg are not the only arms mentioned. Some of those others are excellent, BUT when it comes to actually carrying a real nice pricey one out in the mountains, a certain reluctance sets in. For example, I have a Heym combination O/U that cost over 10 K, and several others that are worth nearly as much Not nearly as priceyas some British SXS double rifles, for sure. BUT I would never take THEM out in the woods, unless I were hunting from a hochsitz with a good set of stairs to climb!!

I hunt with my cheapie Ruger No. 1's, and a couple of custom muzzleloaders......

The reason the Krauts (and others in Europe) make hunting weapons of higher quality than Americqn mass-produced arms is because in Europe, ONLY THE WEALTHY can afford to hunt! The average Joe Blow hasn't a hope of ever being able to pay the costs involved in maintaining hunting grounds. Here, anyone can hunt because the game is owned by the government (people), not private individuals.

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i would still hang onto my Remington Model 700s in left and and my excellent Mathieu.

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A nice Remington 700 in 243 or 270. I'm pretty simple in my choice of what I need.

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Well, I think most of us in this country would be better off to put our dollars towards purchasing some of our own land to hunt on, because VERY soon hunting in this country will be similar to Europe where only the rich can hunt. If you don't own your own land or can't afford the high cost of leases, you probably won't have a place to hunt in the not to distant future. I much rather have a place to hunt with a cheap old Savage rifle than a closet full of custom rifles that could never be fired at anything other than a paper target.

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Leave it to the aggie to miss the point. Yes, I did read all the posts and saw that some "high end" guns were mentioned. That is why I didn't mention them. They are what I expected to see in a thread like this.

HOOK'EM HORNS!!!

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didn't mean to get all this started[X(]I just wanted to see what everyone thought was a very nice high end rifle....I always thoght something like a Browning A bolt, Weatherby mark V or kimbra was high end....but yall mentioned some rifles that i never heard of and some that cost as much as a used pickup truck:)...especially the foreign ones. Thats good though....learned something

Thanks!

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I can't remember if I thought I was (RIFLE QUALITY EXPERT) 40 years ago when I bought my first one, but maybe thats because I also bought my first CHEVY about the same time.
You know I could write a check today for a $5000 rifle and it would be good, but I'd feel that I'd just paid a $4500 pretty tax and that sux. I'd rather spend it on ammo!

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I am a working Stiff , I turn wrenches for a living . I saved and sold some Colt Sauer's to get my first Blaser Lx now I have a Luxus and4 Barrels and excessories. Both rifles I shoot and Hunt with they are no safe Queens.
Any rifle that does what is supposed to do no matter what it cost is a good thing. HERE"S A CRAZY WISH A ENGLISH DOUBLE RIFLE IN 500 NITRO EXPRESS FOR DEER HUNTING.