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Old 09-25-2007, 06:30 PM
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which roundwould bebetter ina for a reach out there and touch um deer gun that u can take and shoot elk with the .300wsm the 300rusm the 300 win mag 300 wethby 338fed 338 rem
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:52 PM
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The 300/338 winchester magnums are pretty hard to beat overall. The remington rum is highly specialized and is too much of a good thing due to too much: recoil,muzzle blast,powder usage,length,weight,ammo/componet cost.
The 300 remington saum won't be around long in my opinion as I already see a industry shift toward the wsm line. Weatherby cartridges have allways been too expensive for the amount of increased performance. The .338 federal is marketing gimmick-not saying it isn't a good round-just that the excellent .358 winchester has been around for decades and is proven.the 338 federal is the answer to a question that was never asked. This leaves4 cartridges-.300 winchester mag,.300 wsm,and .325 wsm,.338 winchester mag. Any of those4 will do anything you can dream of doing.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:00 PM
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ewwww im glad u mentioned the 325wsm now its time to find that in a remington 700sps or a savage
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:47 PM
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30-06 has done it for a 100 plus years, and did it well.
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:35 AM
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30-06 has done it for a 100 plus years, and did it well.
Yeah but James, those days are done. It’s time for the NEW short actions...
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:37 AM
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I don't see the advantage of a short action, I'm thinking it too is just another gimmick to achieve sales. You can do anything on a standard 270/30-06 case that you can do with a short mag except shoot economicaly.
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It my be a sales gimmick but alot of people are buying them. Including me. I bought the 270wsm and there is an avantage over the standard 270win. One thing it it at 270Weathery velosities. In a shorter package.And ammo is more common in my area. "Qoute" DON'T knock it unless you try it. As my Dad always says.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:43 AM
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there is no way a 270 wsm can achieve 270 weatherby velocities, not enough volume there. horse power is made with cubic inches
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I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you butHodgdon's data says differently.

270 weatherby:

130 GR. SPR SP H1000 76.0g = 2941fps - 81.0g = 3259 fps

130 GR. SPR SPH4831 67.0g = 3087fps- 70.0g =3205fps

130 GR. SPR SP H435062.0g=3110fps- 66.0=3262fps

270 WSM:

130 GR. HDY SP H483163.0g=3085fps67.0g = 3228fps

130 GR. HDY SPH435057.0g= 3093fps 60.5=3226fps
63,500 PSI

130 GR. HDY SPH41457.0g = 3065fps61.0g=3235
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:48 PM
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There's more to the equation than case capacity. Pressures affect speed of the bullet too as the WSM indicates. Some theorize that the 'fatter' powder column is more efficient too.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:00 PM
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but capacity is the deciding factor if everything else is equal.
A different case design means everything is not equal. Look at the giant old motors in the 40’s. Today’s motors make a lot more HP with far fewer cubic inches. More efficiency is the key. Lazzeroni(sp?) has used fat for length cases in all of his rifles for a while. Makes you wonder where Winchester got the idea, uh.

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Old 09-26-2007, 07:45 PM
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there is no way a 270 wsm can achieve 270 weatherby velocities, not enough volume there. horse power is made with cubic inches
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I chronographed my Remington 700xcr in 270wsm with factoryWinchester 150gr. Power-Point. Chronographed at 3200fps. with their 150gr. bullet. No sign of high pressure.
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