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Or nothing in the world that will give your position away faster and bring incoming fire:eek:

I'd go with Stoeger coachgun myself. Its cheap, there's no repeating action to jam or shortstroke, and its a matter of pulling one trigger after the other to get 2 shots off. The short barrel is a huge plus also.

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1. The word is "defense" not "defence".
2. Basic Englishpunctuation rules: http://esl.about.com/od/englishgrammar/a/a_punctuation.htm

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I personally wouldn't get a gun that looked like it was designed to shoot someoene with. Don't get a gun and trick it all out with tactical stuff, or get one that looks like it was designed for it. Like a pistol grip and really short barrel etc. Just get a regular shotgun with a short but legal barrel and learn to shoot it well.

This way if God forbid you ever do have to shoot someone you will look like the average joe that was protecting his home and family with what he had. Not some nutcase that went out and specifically purchased or modified a weapon with the sole intent on killing someone. And yes they can try and make it look that way, and may.

Mossberg or 870 with a tight choke and some buckshot, either will work perfectly well. Just know your local laws and how to shoot.

Paul

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paul....i never thought of stuff like that...thats pretty good thinkin. i guess it would look pretty bad if i had to drop a crook with my mossberg 590 with side saddle, speedfeed stock, mounted flashlight etc....but...then again after they look around the house they will soon notice we are not average joes...we like our guns...we got lots of ammo for our guns...

so i guess if i was buying a gun for home defense, and didnt have the quantity of guns and ammo i do have in my house, then a plain jane mossberg 500 or 870 would do its job, and wouldnt make me look like i was waitin for that day...just look like i grabbed my shotgun in fear for my life and had to use it...

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if you want a semi auto get a Rem 11-87... it's a gas design not inertia, meaning you don't have to shoulder it to make it cycle. This is important if you have to shoot it from the hip.

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Bigtime, have you ever fired one of those 12 ga. guns with only a pistol grip?
Darn near broke my wrist.

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You left out a couple of facts. Who will be using the shotgun?? All persons who might use it, need to be proficient with it?? Your considerations should be, gauge(because of recoil), stock length(person's size), and pistol grip(they can make recoil unmanageable for small people, but the grip can be necessary in close quarters to keep the assailant from taking the gun away from you).

The type of ammo you use should be determined by two factors. 1. The capabilities of all possible user's to handle the recoil-emphasis on "ALL". 2. Collateral damage-you must be careful as your are more apt to injure a loved one instead of the assailant. Buckshot is out-it will penetrate walls and kill your son in the next room. Use your head when you pick your ammo.

I would go with a pump action, that has the double slide. Dependability is paramount. IMO the pump is more reliable, and the double slide is the best. Also as stated above the noise the slide makes is a deterrant. Also as stated above the way it looks is very important.

I consider a 20 gauge 870 as a great choice. Light load 7-1/2's make a great load(Right mix of recoil and penetration-IMO). Youth model works well in tight quarters, and can be used by all possible family member's. Sorry to rant, but this really is an important decision. Tom.

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Wow you sound extremely ignorant.

bigtim, are you set on a shotgun, if so why? I think you would be better off with a semi-automatic,maybe a 1911 or a Sig Sauer P226.

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Yep, i'm Stupid as all get out...

When I took my 1st CCW class 8-10 years ago, the instructor was a local deputy and he had been on several drug busts...He was a pretty good fan of a Glock, because as he said, even cops get excited, and a 1911 has too many buttons for the average homeowner to be able to reliably use during a fight...

He told us that when he went into a drug house, his pistol was on his hip and his 12 gauge was in his hands, his actual quote was more "You don't take a d@@n pistol to a gun fight"...Not when you know the stuff is going to hit the fan...You take a 12 gauge...If an intruder is in your house and you are armed, your odds of putting him down are much better with multiple pellets from a open choked 12 gauge than from a single projectile from a pistol.

Think about it, a handgun is made for personal protection...They also have power and size limitations when compared with a long gun...Now I carry a Glock 23 to my office every day and I do have a few handguns in different areas of my home in case I need them quickly....But, I keep a Remington 1100 12 guage deer shotgun (21 inch barrel) under my bed, loaded with #1 buckshot....If you ever need to clear a room, I hope you have a 12 gauge in your hands....

Please excuse all the misspellings and punctuations, but as everyone knows, I'm pretty ignorant...:D

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They call this the Judge..... There is a video at the taurus web site...

I'll try to link it.

http://www.taurususa.com/video/taurus-theJudge-video.cfm

I plan on buying one soon.