RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

Uh, stat, that link was some German company that makes screws.

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

Here's the right link

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/index.tpl

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

Sorry about that. At least now you know where to pick up some screws!

Tom

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

lol, nice one.

The Stoeger M2000 looks cool, but was kinda' hoping to be able to shoot 3 1/2 mags.

If I want to shoot 3 1/2, I might have to go witha pump for the sake of money, since it looks like all the 3 1/2 magnum auto-loaders are over $1,000, unless I get a stinkin' good deal on an 11-87 or as stalkingbear had, a Bennellii Super Black Eagle, which shoots 3 1/2.

I guess keeping an eye to the classifeds, and the local gun store, where I got a stinkin' good deal on a Remington673, will be my best bet to find something.

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

I'd reccomend just staying away from a 3 1/2" as it is not necessary one bit.

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

Agree with Rammer...

2nd thought...Get a 3 1/2 inch in a pump...Try a Mossburg 835...Set up a video and shoot a 3 1/2 turkey load with the turkey choke installed....Then show us the video...It's the off season and we all need a good laugh....

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

In a pump, it's hard to beat either a Remington 870 or the Browning BPS...

In an auto, I have used or have buddies that have Remington 1100s, 11-87s Brownings and Benellis...Never have used a Stoeger...All of these are reliable if you know how they function and how to keep a gun cleaned....In addition they will kick less than the pump guns, but, bought new they are more expensive.....

If you want a good, reliable used gun, look for a Browning B-80...I have one and it is a great gun, I use it for doves, deer, turkeys and it preforms flawlessly...

If it were me, and I was younger and not so used to autos, I believe I would buy a Browning BPS...This gun will serve you well for the rest of your life...Not saying that the 870 isn't a good gun as they have been around since the mid-50s if I remember correctly...The fit and finish on the Browning just seems to be a little better to me....

The other issue in a turkey gun is weight, a pump is lighter than an auto and with turkey hunting you sometimes walk alot and hold the gun up waiting for the bird to work his way in...Not a problem in a dove field....

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

I am very used to autos, it's almost everything I shoot as a shotgun.

Weight reduces recoil, and if I have a sling, it shouldn't be a problem.

I do not agree that 3 1/2 inch magnum is unnecessary, because I have seen it work on turkeys, and it outperforms 3".

I do not agree that a pump is better.

Another thing is that when I get a shotgun, I want to shoot Hevi-Shot, I like it, since I've tried a friend's Mossberg 935 that was 3 1/2 magnum, using Hevi-Shot, and I liked the pattern, and all the lead, and I saw his turkey after he shot one. I do not believe Hevi-Shot is made in 3".

I killed my first turkey at 33 yards, and due to the fact that we hunt on the edge of a field, I want to practice shooting out to 50 yards, my uncle killed his late season gobbler at 50 yards, he said that while he was at the range, he felt as if the Lord was telling him to practise shooting at 50 yards. He was usinghis Charles Daly, 3 1/2 magnum. I would like that kind of performance. That's why I like his shotgun. I like the Mossberg 935 better, though, of course, it was hevi-shot, and it had a Patternmaster choke on it, very good choke for about $75 or more. I'm not sure if Patternmasters are made for 3"

I am determined to get an auto-loading3 1/2 magnum turkey shotgun, I don't need versatility, just a turkey shotgun, and I don't want something that is a"startergun", in fact, I don't believein such a thing, I want a shotgun, that I can use for a very long time, and something reliable, that does the job well, if I treat it well. I don't want anything less.
However, I might consider a Benelli Nova Pump, that seems to be a good turkey gun.

So, I am now fully certain that I want an auto-loader with 3 1/2 capacity.
I want suggestions of what I could get of that, for under $600, either priced new or used, since I don't have to worry about getting a shotgun " with a shot out barrel", like I would with a rifle, since shotguns are smoothbore.

I was thinking of the following things: Charles Daly, Mossberg 935, used Remington 11-87 (that way it's cheaper when it's used, unless I get a freakish deal), and others.

The B-80 is only 2 3/4, I cannot use that for turkey, I need to kill a turkey at least up to 40 yards. Unless I get some E-80 barrel that's 3", but that barrel would be hard to find since production stopped in 1988, and frankly, I don't feel that spending all that money and time just to get an E-80 barrel would be worth it.

I don't mean any offense, andI appreciate you trying to help me.

Thanks, and when you suggest something, I would appreciate a price estimation as well.

Josiah

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

You guys have to see this awesome German ingenuity, and excellent translation!:D








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LOL!!!!!! "Telescopic funtion", why does my screw driver need a telescopic function? LOL!!!!!

Thanks for the site, I not only know where to get my screws, but some good laughs, lol.

RE: Should I get an Auto-loader, or Pump?
 

Heck...Just get a 10 gauge if you want a real gun!!!:D

The B-80 I have is a 3 inch mag and will also shoot 2 3/4 shells...

Your post stated "pump or auto"...I simply gave my opinion based on over 40 years of hunting...

I also have a few fields I turkey hunt in...Saw one killed at 58 yards this year, the guys should not have taken the shot, but he did and killed the turkey...Using a 3 inch gun....

How a gun patterns is more how it is set up and the work the owner has done to maximize the guns potential...The 3 1/2 inch 12 gauge was developed for pass shooting waterfowl with steel shot, it is not inherently "better" than a 3 inch gun for turkeys, in fact the shot coulumn is longer which can deform more shot, not a real problem with harder steel shot...Just because you have more shot in the shell does not mean you have more shot on the target...In addition, how many shot does it take to cleanly kill a turkey, one in the right place, but 6-8 are plenty...I killed 20 or so with a 2 3/4 double barrel and high brass 6s back in the 70's and 80's, before all this camo this, camo that, speciality gun, shell, marketing started taking place.....

In fact, a good 3 inch double with screw in chokes would still make a good turkey gun...Use the extended turkey choke for longer shots and have a regular full or modfied for those shots from 20 yards in...