Sub-MOA Rifles
#11
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blissfield MI USA
Posts: 5,293
RE: Sub-MOA Rifles
My savage 17HMR is as close as it gets for me. It normally shoots under an inch but sometimes I get a flyer that opens it up to an inch or slightly more.
I don't think I have ever owned a centerfire that would do it consistantly with factory ammo. I don't hand load.
Paul
I don't think I have ever owned a centerfire that would do it consistantly with factory ammo. I don't hand load.
Paul
#12
RE: Sub-MOA Rifles
Most of my scoped bolt action guns .30 caliber and under are capable of one inch three shot groups at 100 yards. Will not have a gun that is not accurate: Got two that are going awaythis weekendfor that reason.
Had to work on all of my rifles. Biggest challenge was myMathieu in .300 Win. Mag.Traded a ragged Winchester 1873 for it in Rockville, MD.It came with a Buhmillerbarrel chambered for .300 Weatherby, a cartridge that i hate.Had the barrel set back and re-chambered for .300 Win Mag.The action hasbeen glass beddedand the barrel floated, it is now a consistent one inch and better gun. Had to develop specific loads for some of my rifles that will not work well in other of my guns in the same caliber.Two of my rifles have Hart barrels and bothconsistently make.5 inch groups in the hands of my Marine NCO friend.
Had to work on all of my rifles. Biggest challenge was myMathieu in .300 Win. Mag.Traded a ragged Winchester 1873 for it in Rockville, MD.It came with a Buhmillerbarrel chambered for .300 Weatherby, a cartridge that i hate.Had the barrel set back and re-chambered for .300 Win Mag.The action hasbeen glass beddedand the barrel floated, it is now a consistent one inch and better gun. Had to develop specific loads for some of my rifles that will not work well in other of my guns in the same caliber.Two of my rifles have Hart barrels and bothconsistently make.5 inch groups in the hands of my Marine NCO friend.
#14
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hickory NC USA
Posts: 964
RE: Sub-MOA Rifles
I have a few,if you find the right load a lot of the factory rifles will shoot some groupsan inch or less at 100 yds.Now if you want consistancy group after group you better go with a custom rifle.
I shoot a lot of rifles and a bunch of differentloads week in and week out,don't own any customs but I get one holers with the reg rifles once in awhile and I am very satisfied.Nothing wrong with custom rifles if I had the money I would have a bunch of them.
These groups were shot with factory rifles last week.I have a lot more targets (one holers ) shot with factory rifles including 2 muzzleloaders.
Some have been beded,all have the factory triggers but have been adjusted.A couple stocks have been replaced with bell and carlson stocks(a 7/08 rem,and a 270 rem)
I shoot a lot of rifles and a bunch of differentloads week in and week out,don't own any customs but I get one holers with the reg rifles once in awhile and I am very satisfied.Nothing wrong with custom rifles if I had the money I would have a bunch of them.
These groups were shot with factory rifles last week.I have a lot more targets (one holers ) shot with factory rifles including 2 muzzleloaders.
Some have been beded,all have the factory triggers but have been adjusted.A couple stocks have been replaced with bell and carlson stocks(a 7/08 rem,and a 270 rem)
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: S.W. Pa.-- Heart in North Central Pa. mountains-
Posts: 2,600
RE: Sub-MOA Rifles
The only completely stock/out-of-the -box gun that I currently own that will do it is my 7-08 Rem. CDL with my own handloads. I have several others that will do MOA or less regularly, but they have all been bedded and load-developed for. Out of the box guns that shoot MOA with factory ammo are about as scarce as the Holy Grail.
#16
RE: Sub-MOA Rifles
The only one I currently own is the Savage 17 HMR, I have other 1" or better shooters but they have all been tweaked. I did have one that was bone stock and shot 1" or betterit was a 700BDL 25-06. After that gun I got spoiled and hence the need for tweaking.
My partner bought a Savage 7mm rem mag this winter (bone stock) and we found 1 loadthat will shoot 1" or less- 140 Nosler BT, handloaded not factory!
My partner bought a Savage 7mm rem mag this winter (bone stock) and we found 1 loadthat will shoot 1" or less- 140 Nosler BT, handloaded not factory!
#17
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 62
RE: Sub-MOA Rifles
I have three. My Remington Model 7 in .222 will stay well under an inch, my Browning A-bolt .243 will shoot several different loads under an inch. Both of these guns will do .5" for three shots on a good day with their favorite loads. I also have a Browning Stainless Stalker .30-06 that will hold about .6-7" with 150 Nosler Accubonds (3 shots.)
Will
Will
#18
Spike
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 28
RE: Sub-MOA Rifles
My Savage 10FP .223 shot 1/2 MOA right out of the box with Black Hills Reman 68 gr. MHP. I just put a new stock on it and am going to shoot it this weekend I hope. I would like to see some improvement but for a $515 rifle, it's hard to beat as is.
#19
RE: Sub-MOA Rifles
ORIGINAL: Retaks
How many people actually have a rifle that shoots Sub MOA? IM not talking about the $1500 or $3000 custom rifles. Im talking a factory rifle for under $800 that will consistantly shoot under 1in.
How many people actually have a rifle that shoots Sub MOA? IM not talking about the $1500 or $3000 custom rifles. Im talking a factory rifle for under $800 that will consistantly shoot under 1in.