My feelings exactly.

with what a 90 grain bullet? I would prefer a 130 grain bullet.

Sighted at 200, ballistics comparison at 500:
270 130gr BST: 2171 fps, 1361 ft/lbs, 5mph drift: 8.1", drop 36.1"
25-06 110 acc.: 2177fps, 1158 ft/lbs, 5mph drift: 8.3", drop 35.5"

As you can see, not much difference. By the time you get far enough out its not about which gun but whereYOU can put the bullet.

If you get a very accurate one. Remember that a big prairie dog is the size of a 20 oz pop bottle.Inevitably you will be shooting 200 plus yards in a 20 MPH crosswind. Needless to say, the more accurate your weapon the better. Even with a 1/2 inch rifle you will miss more than you hit.My dad shoots a DPMS bull barrelled AR and loves it. Cleaning is a chore though. The gas operated mechanism gets really "cruded" after a thousand rounds.

Sorry to hear that has been your experience with the 25-06 caliber but you are the "ONLY" person I have ever heard claim that the 25-06 caliber has some kind of inherent accuracy issues. I have never found it to be the case that 25-06 rifles are more finicky about what they will shoot accurately. Are some cartridges inherently more accurate than others? Yeah, so some saybut we are talking increments of "better" that only a benchrest tournament shooter would care about. Ifgun experts madea list ofall the things that could affect the accuracy of a rifle and listed them from most important down to least important, cartridge type and design would benear the bottom ofthat list and completely overshadowed by a dozen or more other rifle related issues. I have a Tikka T-3 in 25-06 that shoots everything I have fed it very well and some things amazingly well. It will consistently shoot Federal Sierra Gamekings or Hornady Interlocks into sub 1 inch groups at 100 yards. And this rifle is certainly not the exception in 25-06 that I have encountered. I have shot many accurate 25-06 rifles. Enough tosay confidentlythat if you encounter one that isn't a shooter it's the gun and not the caliber.

with what a 90 grain bullet? I would prefer a 130 grain bullet.


Why the 90 gr? just to see how they shoot.I allready have the 87,100's,110,115,117 and 120 shooting tiny groups.After that will work on the 75 gr.Haven't ever seen a 130 gr bullet for the 25/06 .
I am shooting the tikka in 25/06 and it is a great shooter.But with some loads you get a lot of muzzle flash.If I was going to get another one I would probably opt for at least a 24 in barrel,perferably a 26 in barrel.
Thought if someone else was shooting the 90 with certain powder I could compare with.But don't guess anyone is.

What was meant was I would prefer a 130 grain bullet out of a 270 for deer.

The problem with a 25-06 is that its a long action cartridge that preforms best with a full 24 inch barrel....Most .270s come with a factory 22 inch barrel, a 25-06 will usually have a 24 inch barrel...If you don't mind carrying a longer gun than can be had in .270, and one that has less energy than a .270 then a 25-07 is a good choice...

If you reload, a 25-06 is an excellent choice, but around here, you have to really look for factory loadings and they aren't really that impressive...Out to 3-400 yards, you won't find much difference in ballistics of factory loaded cartridges between a 25-06 and a .270, if you stick with a 130 deer bullet for a .270 and a 115-120 deer bullet in the 25-06....and frankly most hunters will never shoot a deer at 400 yards....

All that being said, if you are talking about shooting a 3-4 boxes of shells a year at coyotes or prairie dogs, a .270 or even a 7mm-08 would make more sense than a 25-06....

If you are talking about shooting more than 3-4 boxes of shells a year at varmits and not hunting anything larger than deer, you might be better served with a .243...Take a look at the Winchester Supreme 55 grain Ballistic tip at 3910fps and the Federal Premium 85gr Sierra HPBT at 3320 fps....the 55 grain would work as a varmit round, while the 85 gr is good for deer and coyotes both....

And that's what's "wrong" with the 25-06....It sits between 2 of the most popular cartridges ever created...the .243 and the .270....Now throw in the 7mm-08 that came out in 1980, and is gaining popularity every year, you can see that there just isn't much market left for the 25-06...

"thanks" for using the quotation marks. Next time maybe you could say "And that's the challange the 25-06 is facing". 'cause there aint nothin "wrong" or wrong with the cartridge.