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ShatoDavis 04-16-2007 03:19 PM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


Understaker is what I got on my browning. POS if you ask me. I mean no offense if you have one. Just not working for me.
No offense taken. It works excellent in my BPS. Thats the way it goes, just because it works for one doesn't mean it will work for all.


with a hard limit of 40 yards (and thats if everything is perfect), with a comfortable limit of 30yards.
That would be acceptable to me, but everybody has their own standards. From personal experience I think that you would be hard pressed to get a shotgun to hold as tight a pattern as you are expecting out to 40 yards and beyond. As a side note, I've seen shotguns that pattern better with "looser" chokes than with tighter ones. it seem counter-intuitive but it happens. Sorry if I ruffled any feather (pun intended)!

bigcountry 04-16-2007 03:27 PM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 

ORIGINAL: ShatoDavis


ORIGINAL: bigcountry


Understaker is what I got on my browning. POS if you ask me. I mean no offense if you have one. Just not working for me.
No offense taken. It works excellent in my BPS. Thats the way it goes, just because it works for one doesn't mean it will work for all.


with a hard limit of 40 yards (and thats if everything is perfect), with a comfortable limit of 30yards.
That would be acceptable to me, but everybody has their own standards. From personal experience I think that you would be hard pressed to get a shotgun to hold as tight a pattern as you are expecting out to 40 yards and beyond. As a side note, I've seen shotguns that pattern better with "looser" chokes than with tighter ones. it seem counter-intuitive but it happens. Sorry if I ruffled any feather (pun intended)!
No feathers ruffled. Just leaving in the morning for a week long turkey hunt. And as usual, I waited until the last moment to get things done. I promised last year to get a 50 yard turkey gun put together and didn't.

I keep hearing of these 60 yard kills on turkey's but with my guns, I wouldn't dare take that long of a shot. I do have another gold hunter, I might try it out.

snedd162 04-17-2007 07:05 PM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 
i like to use federal premium turkey loads, maybe ill try the flight control shells thanks for the info

ShatoDavis 04-18-2007 08:51 AM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 

I keep hearing of these 60 yard kills on turkey's but with my guns, I wouldn't dare take that long of a shot. I do have another gold hunter, I might try it out.
I think that thosearemostly hyperbole. I think that those 50 yard guns arekind of like 1/2 inchrifles,alot of folks claim to have them but few actually do.

If you don'tmind taking pot shots at turkeyspast 50 yards then eventually you'll get lucky and drop one (it only takes one pellet in the right place) andthen you canbrag about having a 65 yard turkey gun;).
OBTW, I'm not implying that you are"that kind of guy". I'm simplyvoiceing my opinion on some of the coffee shop heroes that brag about there guns etc.

I've shot a lot of 12 gauges from 23/4" to 3 1/2" and 45 yards is a long shot with any of them.

statjunk 04-18-2007 09:06 AM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 
I don't know much about how my buddies shotgun patterned at 50-60 yards. But it is an old remington pump with a 4x fixed scope on it. He absolutely plastered this bird at 63 yards exactly. I ranged it for him.

That bird was anchored.

Tom


Pawildman 04-18-2007 09:07 AM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 
If you really want to kill turkeys at 40+ yds, the nephew of a friend of mine has what you want. It's a 10 ga. semi-auto, shoots 3 1/2" shells stuffed with BB's. Some states permit this, I guess, and some don't. All I know is what I've been told. He took it on a hunt some where in the South, and killed his bird immediately, even though they were hanging up just out of normal range. Some of the other hunters were having trouble keeping birds down. He lent his gun to one or more of them, and according to him, their troubles were over.
Don't know if this is a viable option for where you hunt, but it seems to work well for him.
Just a story as it was told to me..............

Champlain Islander 04-18-2007 12:18 PM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 
Lots of good stuff here and you know what I think I'll try out the factory full that came with my SBE just for grins. When I first got it I took it to the range and shot it 6 times using Winchester 3 1/2" number 5's. I thought I really had something because it appeared to have lots of range but nearly took off my shoulder. I had a good size black and blue mark and a swollen trigger finger. Lots of kick for the old version of the gun that weighs about 6 pounds. At the urging of a friend who had the same gun I sent it out for a forcing cone polishing and extension and laser porting to reduce recoil.I had them sell me their tightest turkey choke and used it that first season with decent results. As time went on I tried 2 other turkey chokes looking for something that would reach out just a tad further. You know how they market these things and sad to say I was hooked. Now it has been several years later and I have gone through about 200 worth of extra chokes and I am not in any better shape. I'll let you know how it works as soon as I can shoot again. Just had minor surgery and they told me to cool it for a couple of weeks. So just like you BC I'll be doing it all at the last minute....just like usual. My season opens May 1. :D

bigcountry 04-20-2007 06:22 PM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 
Well, didn't matter anyway. Hunted for over 3 days and it snowed in western MD 10". Killed the hunting. Birds were very unresponsive. So all that patterning didn't pay off.:(

Paul L Mohr 04-20-2007 07:13 PM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 
Have you tried #4's yet? They work much better for me, especially with a tighter choke. I don't think spending a bunch of money on a choke is going to help you. They are all pretty much the same except for the constriction. If you get a new choke with the same constriction as the one you have now don't be shocked if you get nearly the same results. There really isn't anything that high tec about chokes in my opinion.

The key is finding the right choke size and load that works in your gun.

I think 40 yards is pushing it with a 12 ga 3 inch load anyway.

Good luck, let us know what you find out.

Paul

Paul L Mohr 04-20-2007 07:20 PM

RE: Federal Flight Control
 
Oh, my buddy has a 870 special purpose turkey gun in 3 1/2. It shoots just fine with the stock extra full remington choke it came with. His will kill birds out to 50 yards, it patterns good that far, but you have to aim high because the pellets are dropping by then.

I use a browing A-5 stalker in 2 3/4 with high velocity pheasant loads an economy turkey choke. It patterns pretty good but haven't got a chance to take it turkey hunting yet.

Paul


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