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bigcountry 04-09-2007 07:43 AM

UMC Ammo issues
 
Well, I usually don't reload 9mm ammo. I have before in the past. As long as its 5 dollars/box, I doubt I will. Usually stock up on UMC ammo. Well yesterday, I went to the pistol range, and had a peirced primer. Which might have meant overpressure. I have shot probably 5000 rounds of UMC 9mm in my life, and this is a first. It started off as a stovepipe in my berretta. That is kinda odd as this gun has never jammed, and then I noticed the primer.

I always saw that UMC's were loaded down. Usually a very fast powder (probably cause they are cheap).

Could have been a bad scene.

sjsfire 04-09-2007 07:49 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
I know my Smith and Wesson Sigma 40 cal does not like the UMC. But my H&K 40 shoots them just fine


sjsfire 04-09-2007 07:50 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
Can only post one picture at a time. He's my H&K.


brushbustin 04-09-2007 07:57 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
I dont know about pistol rounds in UMC but i shoot them out of my colt match target AR .223and it shoots them great and i have never had a jam or anything.And i just shot 100 rounds over the weekend...Maybe you just had bad luck and got a bad one..."nobody or nothing is perfect"

bigcountry 04-09-2007 08:12 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 

ORIGINAL: brushbustin

I dont know about pistol rounds in UMC but i shoot them out of my colt match target AR .223and it shoots them great and i have never had a jam or anything.And i just shot 100 rounds over the weekend...Maybe you just had bad luck and got a bad one..."nobody or nothing is perfect"
I think somehow, people are missing the point of this post. Its not to critiize or put down peoples choice of ammo.Or tell them not to shoot UMC's. So there is no need to debunk or tell me how well it does in your gun.

The point was, to warn that even UMC's which are lightly/weak loaded can have issues that can be dangerous. And if you have stovepipes, or jams, don't just keep on shooting. Stop, check things out. A pierced primer, for experienced reloaders know you have reached a critical level.

Hope this makes more sense now.



brushbustin 04-09-2007 09:37 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
Oh ok..The way you worded that first post,it kinda confused me and i could not make no sense out of it..Just that you found a bad shell..But thanks for the heads up,being all that i shoot for plinking is umc i will take a more careful look...


sjsfire 04-09-2007 09:44 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
I guess I get your point. My point was that I shoot them in my guns and have never had a problem with them other than my S&W doesn't seem to feed them as well. So, thanks for the warning. When you spend $5 on a box of centerfire ammo thats what you get $5 centerfire ammo. IMHO it doesn't matter if you spend 4 times as much you'll still have some duds.

BigTiny 04-09-2007 01:15 PM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
I used UMC for my 9mm Glock until last year, when I noticed my pattern getting bigger. I got some wolf (also cheap) and went back to normal. I think the problem was that the loads were not uniform. I had no misfires or stovepipes. I still use UMC for plinking in the .223, no complaints.

uncle matt 04-09-2007 06:39 PM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
BC, maybeif you post a picture of your gun we'll be betterable to understand the ammo issue.

Also it would be helpful to see the magazines also ...........:eek:

bigcountry 04-09-2007 06:48 PM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
:eek:

ORIGINAL: uncle matt

BC, maybeif you post a picture of your gun we'll be betterable to understand the ammo issue.

Also it would be helpful to see the magazines also ...........:eek:
It was a pierced primer. I assume any gun guy knows exactly what that means. That means overpressure to reloaders mainly. I happens sometimes when trying to find max load.

I guess if you want a picture, you can probably go to google and type pressure signs and pierced primer or something simular.

I guess if you want to see mags, go to cabelas or something like that. You can go to beretta website to see a 92FS. :eek:

Briman 04-09-2007 07:56 PM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
Pierced primer? Feh.:D

As much as people love to hate Beretta pistols, they are very stoutly built.

BigTiny 04-10-2007 11:33 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
Nothing wrong with Beretta at all, I'm just spoiled to that Glock trigger reset.

snedd162 04-11-2007 11:26 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
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snedd162 04-11-2007 11:28 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
what?

bigcountry 04-11-2007 11:29 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 

ORIGINAL: snedd162

I think somehow, people are missing the point of this post. Its not to critiize or put down peoples choice of ammo.Or tell them not to shoot UMC's. So there is no need to debunk or tell me how well it does in your gun.

The point was, to warn that even UMC's which are lightly/weak loaded can have issues that can be dangerous. And if you have stovepipes, or jams, don't just keep on shooting. Stop, check things out. A pierced primer, for experienced reloaders know you have reached a critical level.

Hope this makes more sense now.



I dont understand why you would put this post up if you dont want people to comment about it. Brushbustin was just trying to say that it shoots well in his gun, I dont understand what was wrong with that.
I explained it in full detail. sorry, you can't understand. But one more time just for you. No, I don't want people to come on here, and say "I have never had a problem with it", cause they are defensive of thier ammo. Its silly and obvious. You can always put a block on my comments or tips or posts. In fact, I suggest it.

The point was, to warn that even UMC's which are lightly/weak loaded can have issues that can be dangerous. And if you have stovepipes, or jams, don't just keep on shooting. Stop, check things out. A pierced primer, for experienced reloaders know you have reached a critical level

snedd162 04-11-2007 11:29 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 


ORIGINAL: bigcountry

I think somehow, people are missing the point of this post. Its not to critiize or put down peoples choice of ammo.Or tell them not to shoot UMC's. So there is no need to debunk or tell me how well it does in your gun.

The point was, to warn that even UMC's which are lightly/weak loaded can have issues that can be dangerous. And if you have stovepipes, or jams, don't just keep on shooting. Stop, check things out. A pierced primer, for experienced reloaders know you have reached a critical level.

Hope this makes more sense now.


I dont understand why you would put this post up if you dont want people to comment about it. Brushbustin was just trying to say that it shoots well in his gun, I dont understand what was wrong with that.


snedd162 04-11-2007 11:44 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
if youwere just trying to tell us to stop shoting after a stove pipe or a jam which any "gun guy" already knows you could have just said that.

bigcountry 04-11-2007 11:57 AM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 

ORIGINAL: snedd162

if youwere just trying to tell us to stop shoting after a stove pipe or a jam which any "gun guy" already knows you could have just said that.
Hense the second post I made in the thread to straighten it out. Sorry you missed it.

Aught Six 04-11-2007 12:51 PM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
I can't stand factory UMC in my pistols. I get all kind of problems with FTF, FTE, bad jams where I have to pry the unfired cartridge out of the chamber. Brass seems pretty cheap, and the powder charge leaves a little to be desired. Had problems in my Steyr M40 andWalther P-1 and have usedWinchester white box since.

James B 04-11-2007 07:49 PM

RE: UMC Ammo issues
 
Thanks for word. I shoot them a lot in my 38 Special. The 130 fmj. I don't recall ever chrongraphing any of them to see where they are power wise.


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