Barrel break in the final word
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Typical Buck
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Barrel break in the final word
I just got an email back from CZ. Note: I only emailed them yesterday. It read " Our bbls are hammer forged and hand lapped from the factory and do not need to be broke in." I thought this needed to have it's own post to make sure everybody who posted saw it. Kinda neat huh.
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#2
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RE: Barrel break in the final word
Barrel break in done right is useful, even for a CZ or a top of the line Krieger or lilja. I bet ya big bag of nickels that there is no hammer forged CZ barrel as smooth as a dan lilja and they recommend it.
If you are cleaning between shots and first one is dark blue with copper, and the 6th one is almost no copper, you are doing something undisputedly. And then you shoot 5 rounds and clean and its dark blue with copper, and on the 3 cycle, there is almost no copper, you are doing something.
Done properly looking for proper things, its very useful.
But hey man, its your gun, do what you want with it.
If you are cleaning between shots and first one is dark blue with copper, and the 6th one is almost no copper, you are doing something undisputedly. And then you shoot 5 rounds and clean and its dark blue with copper, and on the 3 cycle, there is almost no copper, you are doing something.
Done properly looking for proper things, its very useful.
But hey man, its your gun, do what you want with it.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Western OK
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RE: Barrel break in the final word
"I bet ya big bag of nickels that there is no hammer forged CZ barrel as smooth as a dan lilja and they recommend it."
Personally i think that Lilja barrels are over hypped expensive pieces of pig iron that are no better than most other quality barrels out there.Boughtthree of them beforei wised up. Had one put on a Model 700 Remington that shot .5 inch groups with the old Remington barrel. The Lilja barrel turned it into a 1 inch rifle.
Personally i think that Lilja barrels are over hypped expensive pieces of pig iron that are no better than most other quality barrels out there.Boughtthree of them beforei wised up. Had one put on a Model 700 Remington that shot .5 inch groups with the old Remington barrel. The Lilja barrel turned it into a 1 inch rifle.
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RE: Barrel break in the final word
ORIGINAL: alsaqr
"I bet ya big bag of nickels that there is no hammer forged CZ barrel as smooth as a dan lilja and they recommend it."
Personally i think that Lilja barrels are over hypped expensive pieces of pig iron that are no better than most other quality barrels out there.Boughtthree of them beforei wised up. Had one put on a Model 700 Remington that shot .5 inch groups with the old Remington barrel. The Lilja barrel turned it into a 1 inch rifle.
"I bet ya big bag of nickels that there is no hammer forged CZ barrel as smooth as a dan lilja and they recommend it."
Personally i think that Lilja barrels are over hypped expensive pieces of pig iron that are no better than most other quality barrels out there.Boughtthree of them beforei wised up. Had one put on a Model 700 Remington that shot .5 inch groups with the old Remington barrel. The Lilja barrel turned it into a 1 inch rifle.
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RE: Barrel break in the final word
ORIGINAL: CamoCop
i've never "broke in" a barrel in any of my firearms and they all shoot fine. however, i'm just a hunter...not a benchrest shooter shooting 1,000 yards.
i've never "broke in" a barrel in any of my firearms and they all shoot fine. however, i'm just a hunter...not a benchrest shooter shooting 1,000 yards.
#8
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Western OK
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RE: Barrel break in the final word
"Why would you swap a barrel for one that was shooting .5? Were you changing calibers?"
Simply because it wore out. For the first 3,000 rounds that .22-250 barrel shot .5 inchthree shot groups at 100 yards. Thenaccuracy started to gosouth. Had the Lilja barrel installed by a very good gunsmith, big mistake. The Lilja barrel came off, went back to Lilja andRemingtonre-barreled the rifle. Viola!!! Instant .5 inch groups again.
Toquote the old lady who survived the Jonestown mass suicide: "i ain't drinking the Kool Aid."
Simply because it wore out. For the first 3,000 rounds that .22-250 barrel shot .5 inchthree shot groups at 100 yards. Thenaccuracy started to gosouth. Had the Lilja barrel installed by a very good gunsmith, big mistake. The Lilja barrel came off, went back to Lilja andRemingtonre-barreled the rifle. Viola!!! Instant .5 inch groups again.
Toquote the old lady who survived the Jonestown mass suicide: "i ain't drinking the Kool Aid."
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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RE: Barrel break in the final word
ORIGINAL: eldeguello
But if you were, would you "break in" a Douglas Premium grade barrel that gives you 5-shot groups like this one without any break-in?
ORIGINAL: CamoCop
i've never "broke in" a barrel in any of my firearms and they all shoot fine. however, i'm just a hunter...not a benchrest shooter shooting 1,000 yards.
i've never "broke in" a barrel in any of my firearms and they all shoot fine. however, i'm just a hunter...not a benchrest shooter shooting 1,000 yards.
alsagr
Personally i think that Lilja barrels are over hypped expensive pieces of pig iron that are no better than most other quality barrels out there.Boughtthree of them beforei wised up. Had one put on a Model 700 Remington that shot .5 inch groups with the old Remington barrel. The Lilja barrel turned it into a 1 inch rifle.
Personally i think that Lilja barrels are over hypped expensive pieces of pig iron that are no better than most other quality barrels out there.Boughtthree of them beforei wised up. Had one put on a Model 700 Remington that shot .5 inch groups with the old Remington barrel. The Lilja barrel turned it into a 1 inch rifle.
bigcountry
If you are cleaning between shots and first one is dark blue with copper, and the 6th one is almost no copper, you are doing something undisputedly. And then you shoot 5 rounds and clean and its dark blue with copper, and on the 3 cycle, there is almost no copper, you are doing something.
If you are cleaning between shots and first one is dark blue with copper, and the 6th one is almost no copper, you are doing something undisputedly. And then you shoot 5 rounds and clean and its dark blue with copper, and on the 3 cycle, there is almost no copper, you are doing something.
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RE: Barrel break in the final word
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
But hey man, its your gun, do what you want with it.
But hey man, its your gun, do what you want with it.
I have heard very good arguments from both sides of the fence. The way I look at it is this:
Whenever you get a new rifle/barrel, you are going to have to find what it likes best with regards to ammo. So in effect, when you are playing with your new toy, and developing a load for it, or even finding a factory load it likes the best, you are, in effect, going through the "break in" process. Does it hurt the gun? Probably not much... Does it help the gun? Probably not much... But it does help you become accustomed to it again, and find the ammunition it shoots the best with. Everybody wins.