I have never seen a well hit deer go more than a 100 yds. Most go less than that. I will say that some well hit deer, particularly those with no exit or hit well but high don't always bleed so well and tracking can't take some effort, even its just 50-60 yds. I have helped track a few "well hit" deer, both mine and others, that went more than 100yds and we found after recovering the deer that the bullets point ofimpact had moved to a less desirable location. I suspect thats the case if someone trailed a deer two miles.

I prefer a bullet that will expand well but exit on most broadside or decent quartering shots. There are lots of bullets that meet my criteria as regards to deer. I think in the 30 cal, 7mm and 270 calmost cup and core bullets of reasonable weights do well. As caliber shrinks I think its wise to either use a heavy for calibercup and core or a premium bullet. Also I would add that bullet construction becomes more important as velocity rises. My rule of thumb is use a premium buletif impact velocities are likely to exceed 2700 fps.

The Nosler BT and the hornady SSTs have a reputation for opening quickly and doing a fair amount of damage. Often times this results in Bang flops and other spectacular kills. However the down side to this is that they may come apart and not exit and this coupled with poor shot placment(mostly the shot placement) can make a deer difficult to recover.

As an example in 308 I use 150 grainers with mostly good results (SST last few years and 150 Accubonds next year). If I were going to use a 243 I would choose a 100g ( which is heavy for caliber)Hornady interlock or speer hotcor or better yet a accubond/interbond/partition/tsx

Frankly except for cost there is little down side to using a premium bullet, its often not needed but them again maybe the time it will help is the next time you go hunting.

I use a .308 150 grain, and I do have Hornady SST's, and I was wondering what brands sell good,factory ammo, since I don't handload.

It has to, of course, be pertinent to what I am searching for.

You think that Winchester Supreme ammo would be good?

The winchester supreme with the accubond sounds like a great choice.

Never had a problem with BT's/deer sized game and still my favored deer bullet. I push them at over 3200 fps from my 7mm rm and never not got an exit!! Furthest track job I had was 100 or so yards but usually they are down within 50 yardsand the blood trails have all been blind man worthy. Thestories toldwith regards to this bullet has never reared its head in my experiencewith many deer sized animals harvested.

I see absolutley no reason not to use a 150 bt in 308 for deer, atthe velocity most 308 win factory ammo is loaded well inside the design limits for which nosler intended the BT to perform. Yes other will work but I wouldn't sell the BT short on the account of hersay or internet stories which all to frequently don't tell the whole story.

THe Nosler Ballistic tip bullet is what is used in the Win Supreme Silver tip ammo. Nosler is a company. The make Partitions bullets which are a great design(a little pricey though) The Accubonds which look like a ballistic tip but are a bonded bullet and ballistic tips. The Hornady SST are also plastic tipped bullets that look and perform alot like the ballistic tip.

The Winchester Supreme Silver tips are pretty much the Nosler Ballistic tip with a Lubralox coating(the black on the bullet) that works sorta but not really like Moly coating.

www.nosler.comgo here and check out the differences.

Honestly though if I didnt reload and the Regular Rem Core-lokts or Win PSP stuff shot good out of my gun I prob wouldnt feel the need to go with the more expensive stuff(for whitetails). If you want a good quality factory ammo check out Black Hills ammo. They make some great stuff and unless itsa premium bullet load they arent that expensive but you usually have to order it. Their 223 ammo is all I use out of my 223 because it shoots so good.

The supreme line of ammo uses a bunch of different bullets. BTs, CT partitions, balistic silver tips and accubonds.

All of which are manufactured by Nosler for Winchester. (Partition Gold and Failsafe are no more, depeleting stock of these 2 CT bullets)

I just looked at the design of the Gold Partition, and I thought "MAN!!!!! What kind of IDIOT took that thing off the market?!?!"

That Gold Partition bullet looked awesome. Remington makes Premier A-Frame, which isvery similar,but not in .308.

I have been doing bullet/ammo research myself since my son and I are both changing calibers for 2007. I just bought a 308 barrel for my Blaser R-93 and have set my son up with his own R-93 in 30-06. I have never hunted with either caliber, so I am having to do my homework.

I am a big fan of Winchester Supreme ammo and am probably going with the 150 gr fail safe or xp3 in both calibers. For east Texas whitetails for sure and even the larger NW Oklahoma deer, I don't see a need for a larger bullet than 150 grs in either caliber.

If I were to go with Federal Premium ammo, which I am not opposed to, I would definitely use the 150 gr Nosler Partitions in both calibers.

In my 25 years experience and well over 100 deer, shot placement is a bigger deal than caliber or bullet weight. I want to shoot a well made bullet that will hold together and pass through. I can and have killed many deer with a 100 gr 243, so I feel very confident that, if I do my part, I can surely take a deer down with a 308 150 gr.