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whats the rule on scopes....if i buy a savage 116fxp3 what scope should i buy.....i want to buy around a 4-16x50 ish scope ...any suggestions??? varmit and deer huntering in NY...Opinions plz?

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Well that's one of the savage packages so it's already got a scope mounted and boresighted. If you're to buy another scope for the gun, why buy the package?
Anyways, I think a 4-16X-50 is just a we bit overkill for most hunting scenarios. You're gonna have a huge objective lens so it's gonna sit up high first of all. not always a comfortable positioning. Secomnd, the 16x is also a bit more than I'd think one would need for a typical deer rfle. Bigger isn't neccessarily better.
I'd opt for a decent Burris ifI wanted a really good scope or for a regualr ol' hunting rifle maybe one of the higher grade Simmons scopes. Either way I'd go with a 3-9x40 at the most.
Of course I'd opt for a deer rifle and a varmint rilfe being two completely seperate rifles all together and set up each accordingly.

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Hello SE. For my money, the Burris BPlex 3x9, Zeiss Conquest 3x9 and Bushnell 3X9 with the lighted reticle are terrific. Get yourself some good binos and forget the 50mm jobs.....too heavy and they sit up too high. JM .02$ worth. Regards, Rick.

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www.swfa.com has a killer sale on Nikon Monarch's right now !! Picked up a 6x42 for my son's .223 last week and it is very close to being as bright as my Swarovski PV or Ziess Diavari !! The recticle is a lot harder to see than the other scopesin severe low light.....but the brightness and clarity is really not that much worse at all !! The Nikon was only $188 compared to the $1000 I paid for each of the others(and the Swarovski was a display model) !!

I have had2 Burris's and would buy a Nikon Monarch UCC any day over one !! My buddy has a Bushnell 3200 IR and I would rather have a Monarch !! Just my .02$ from my recent experinces !!!

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Watch the scope bases, Savage's have 2 different styles. Older models used round fore and aft bases where the newer has one that's flat. So pick carefully when shopping or that bargain/close-out price won't be such a bargain. ;)

I just started using Nikon ProStaff BDC 3x9-40mm myself. Nice scopes for the money, $125-$150, pretty crisp and clear. The 4x16-50mm is a bit of overkill on a deer rifle but woulddo wellon a varminter's rig for smaller targets/longer distances. So it should be fine for your dual purpose, I suppose. What caliber you thinking on?

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I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x 40mm. on my 6.5X55 and a Leaupold VX1 3-9x 40mm on my Browning B78 singlr shot 30-06. They both are great scopes. Very clear and hold zero very well. I paid right at 200 for each of these. It's hard to find a better value than that. You might consider looking at them. The Bushnell has Rainguard but I think the Leaupold has a slight edge in clarity and light transmission when it is near dark.

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My first suggestion is to go with 40mm objective lens instead of 50mm lens. With huge objective lens,you have to mount them too high to be able to obtain good fit and cheek weld.

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The Nikon Monarchs are hard to beat from SWFA at that price. They were good scopes when they were being sold for $299 but they are a steal at $218. Something else to look at when changing scopes is to upgrade your bases and rings on the Savagepackage deal. I had a model 16FXP3 package and the scope bases and rings were aluminum. I changed over to solid steel Leupold bases and rings.

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The Swarovski 4x16x50 PH would make a great addition atop your Savage. It has a 30mm tube and might offer you greater windage and elavation adjustments for longer ranges.The only down side is their cost.

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I'm using a Bushnell Elite 3200 5-15x 40mm scope on my 22-250 and am very happy. Higher power doesn't mean everything. This one at 15x is much clearer than the Simmons 6-18x 44mm that it replaced. A good quality is most important. I paid 300 for the bushnell and am very pleased.

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any opinions on a BSA ...i read a large amount a reviews and they state they are realiable dependable scopes...and may i add affordable!!!!

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I would not buya BSA scope to replace the scope that will come with the Savage package. It simply will not be an upgrade and quite possibly youwill be worse off. There is nothing wrong with trying to save money but remember you usually get what you pay for. Maybe you should look for a good used scope such as Leupold, Burris, or Nikon. These scopes will still carry their warranty and will serve you much better. Look at ebay andhunting websites with classifieds(such as this site)and I bet you can find a good deal.

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Elite 3200 area & up would be my suggestion. The 3200 is agood scope for the price and has proven to be reliable in my usage.

The Nikon Monarch would be a step up and at the prices being flashed on the forums pretty hard to argue with this suggestion.

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You could also look at the Nikon Prostaff if a more inexpensive, yet durable scope without the extras is what you want. I got one in 2x7 for $129 and it has a full lifetime warranty.
Bushnells and Burris' are good options as well.

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You have to listen too what everyone is telling you !! I totally agree. the 50mm is to big for what your doing and heavy mayI add. Go with the 40mm and look at the nikon monarch for 218.00. I bought 1 in early jan. and it is great. The best money i have spent... And i was looking in the 500, 600 dollar range for a scope. I'm glad I got this and the savings was just a steal.

.02 cents

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the most i could find was about $150 to buy a scope...any suggestions..and what scope comes with the 116fxp3..i mihgt buy the 116ss and have about 190 ish for a scope but idk HELP PLZ:(

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The scope that came with my Savage package gun was a Simmons 8 point 3x9x40. I saw this scope advertised in several sale papers last year for $29.99. Not much quality there I don't think. If you have $150 for a scope now, I would look at the Prostaff mentioned earlier or a good used scope. You could also save up a few more months and go with a Nikon Buckmaster, Bushnell Elite 3200 or a Burris FFII.