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the other day i went to wally world to look at some rifles. the guy i talked to said that he had a gunsmith friend who had a customer bring in a savage rifle with a broken barrel. this guy a walmart said that the barrels on savage rifles are only held on by a nut. now at first i didn't believe him but now im thinking what if this is true. i am no expert so that's what brings me to here. he seemed to know his stuff about rifles. but i could be wrong. thanks.

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yeah i thought it was bs at first but i didn't know.

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I think what you should have said was ( It's cheep easy and ingenious imo) I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SO MANY OF YOU CHOOSE TO PLACE COSMETICS, AHEAD OF FUNCTION!

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in this case i am worried about the function. the way the guy put it was that the nut would loosen causing the barrel to come off. so that's why i put this on the forum.

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just buy that ugly savage with the big nut holding the barrel on,you'll learn what accuracy is after you get one. these guns are out shooting most on the market today. for the money you can not go wrong with a savge rifle.
i have 3

mod 110 savage 22-250
mod 12 savage 22-250
mod 11 savage 7mm
they all shoot under 1in grps at 100yds.

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I suppose it is someones right to place a lot of emphasis on cosmetics, but I could care less what it looks like as long as it performs.

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I agree totally with the screw the cosmetic group. They are extremely accurate and the price is right.

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ok thanks guys. i like my savage very much. i have only shot it once so im ready to get back to the range and shoot away!!!

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I have 3 also, well make that 4 counting the mark11 .22 cal. I have a 110 308 tactical, a 111 270 win and a 12BVSS 223 and they will also do well under an inch. well ( the mark11 will not come close to an inch ). But when I see a rifle with a barrel nut I feel sure it is a shooter and the owner didn't get screwed at the check out counter. You can't say that about the other num nut brands!;)

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Cosmetics have their price- are they worth it? To some, maybe.

In all my years of shooting and hunting I've learned two things:

1) Fancy schmancy cosmetics get marred up very quickly in the field if you're actually using it for real hunting. Re-sale value on your investment has gone down due to scratches, nicks, dings, etc. Who wants to take AAAAA+ walnut stock and high polished bluinginto the field?

2) Flawless function and outstanding accuracy provide two things:
Confidence in your rifle and day in, day out reliability. I'll take anoption 2 SHOOTER everytime!!!;)

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To you guys who just care about function I have a question or 2 for you. When you buy a car or truck do you look at the one you think looks the best or functions the best? How about clothes or shoes or anything you purchase, do any of you like how it looks or just worry about function?

I have 2 Savage rifles and they shoot fine, they are ugly and the only complaint I have about them is their re-sale value is crap.

When I goto the gun store I check out the rifles that feel good to me and catch my eye. From the prices of the highly engraved highly polished guns someone else must do the same and not mind paying for a nice looking gun.

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My truck/SUV purchases are by reliability, re-sale value and best performance for the dollar. I review the car and driver assessments to see where the pros and cons are.
I bought "pretty stuff " when I was young, dumb and influenced by trends and opinions. Now I buy with my head. Spend the money on the "best quality for the dollar". Even real pretty automobiles lose thousands of dollars the minute they leave the showroom. Why did we have to pay the higher amount if it just depreciated when I drove away with it?
If showing off is important to some, let them spend their money the way they want to. Its their right to do so.
Mortgages, kids, bills etc. cause one to look at the spending vs. over spending!
Just .02 worth!

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To be honest, I go with function 1st then looks. I drive an extended cab Dodge Ram v8 as I have children which are safer in the backseat vs up front with me. But I also need the "trunk space" of a pick-up a few times a week. It gets pretty good gas milage @ 24 highway and 18 in town.

Not thinking one should compare clothes to rifles, but hey, I'll play along. I am a jeans and boots man.. can you get more functional? You ever wear a "pretty" pair of boots that didn't "function" as designed? You try them on for fit and feel 1st, then worry about looks.

Comparing strictly on across the board on investment loss, yes I can see how you can say that. But to be down right technical about it, losing 20% of $400 comes out less then losing 10% of $1000.

Each to their own, for sure, gotta respect the rights of others opinions and tastes. And to be perfectly honest, I too will look at all the pretties and shiny's on the racks. But I always put them back and leave them behind because they don't fit MY concept of "functional". They are pretty to look at and hold, even close your eyes and imagine the ohhh's and ahhh's your buddies would give you. They make lovely range queens, but out in the Texas brush.. that resale value will take a beating in a hurry, much more than the 10% I mentioned above.

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ROFL.. yes, I have AM/FM/Tape deck.. standard equipment.. along with the cloth seats and A/C. It's all standard nowadays, what manufacturer leaves out A/C? And every Ram on the lot that day had Alloy rims.. *shrug*
Must be a Texas/Southern thing.. ;)

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Oh.. they make functional work trucks?

Seriously, we use them.. have about 6 reasonably new ones. All with AM/FM no tape/CD.. A/C STANDARD. AUTO Trans STANDARD. We got one manual trans, only because it was a special request from another city to that dealer and never followed through. We got it for the SAME price as the other 5.
They barely meetOUR requirements for "functional" since they are underpowered engine wise (standard again) and we have a lot of rural outlaying area to our town. But like trucks you do get a few optional choices with Savage, like wood vs Synthetic stocks.
If your idea, CMA, for functional involves a deep high luster blue-ing and a full figured stock, fine have at it, that's YOUR choice. Mine is to have something I can "ride hard and put up wet" to use a southern phrase.

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Okay, CMA, let's just end this since this ISN'T a Truck Forum. Comparing apples to oranges does nothing more then raise everyone's blood pressure. So let's break it down this way. Just because one person chooses to spend $400 instead of $1k on a rifle alone and gets the most functional one he can, doesn't make him a fool, cheapor anything else. It may be because he is "middle-class" and married w/children. It may be because of his chosen use for said weapon is going to be in hunting; mountainous orbrush country where value/durability/weight far exceeds looks. You are not standing in that man's shoes or boots and viewing the world from his eyes. Let people make their choices and you make yours and all will be well, voice your opinion and move on.

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Stainless Synthetic is the way to go if you want a truly rugged rifle. In my humble opinion, I think it's stupid to fight over the cosmetics of a rifle, geesh. Honestly, I like the design of the Savages. What's to say they will fall apart any faster then my Ruger I really don't know. All I know is you can get both for about the same price and have a truly rugged rifle that can get the job done. The people who spend 1k or more for a rifle are fanatics, do a lot of hunting with different species all over the place, or just have the money to throw around. Comparing rifles to trucks is not apples to oranges but instead, lets use a Ford Fusion as apposed to a Mercedes. Those who purchase a Mercedes obviously have a lot of money to throw around and what does that tell the guy who's driving a Ford Fusion (although it might handle better). Yeah, it tells him that he doesn't have as much money and prestige. So if two hunters go out on a hunting trip together, one with a Sako and the other with a Savage 110 are they in different social class? Maybe outside of hunting but not out in the woods.

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LOL.. that's my primaryhunting rifle of choice, Ruger M77 mkII in .30-06.

And yes, it' silly, but hey my wife just went shopping with her girlfriends and I have to take it out on someone. ;)

My bringing up social class was merely to point out that not everyone is a Doctor or Lawyer or even well paid and single. I agree about out in the woods they should be the same, or even at the range, but it rarely happens that way.

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Well said, TxStorm!!!

I won't spend high dollars anymore just to say or show" lookie what I got"!
I don't want to be the envy of anyone, just shoot well and if it gets dinged or scratched, that adds character, not remorse.
And for the record, I too, like " Rode hard and put away wet".....

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I bought my wife a model 11 in 7mm-08. Shoots great and uglier than hell. With the accuracy and price that a savage has I can over look the ugly. Kinda like a rich ugly girl that wants to spend all her money on you. The nut is just a lock nut. It allows them to set the headspace very precise and keep manufacturing costs down. If not for that they would probably cost more and not shoot as good. If looks matter that much, check out the CZ550. Mine cost less than 100 more than the savage, looks a lot better and shoots slightly better with handloads.

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Man I want one of those Dodge Ram V8s that gets 24mpg highway and 18 in town!!!!!

I've never heard of a Dodge that got better than 13mpg!

As for the rifle debate. Buy what you want, who cares what anyone else thinks. I don't buy Savages because I like a nice tight feel, and not a sloppy $2 hooker feel ;)

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on the contrary..i love savages AND CHEAP HOOKERS:D

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Which is ugly, your wife or the Savage? HA HA, sorry I could not resist! Yeah, but you probably figured your wife holding it made it look good! [8D]