5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

ok, first off let me say i WILL NOT DO THIS SO DON'T SET FIRE TO MY HOUSE.. here's the question.. sort of.. a .223/5.56 FMJ will go straight through an entire car(did it at the police academy, do not argue w/ me on this).. so if it'll go through a car, it will undoubtedly go through both shoulders of an elk/moose.. if it will go through both shoulders, wouldn't it break both shoulders rendering the animal w/ 2 broken shoulders and unable to run?? not that i'd do it, but it's just a question... it's probably not even legal.. would it work for deer too?? i'm just saying IF YOU HIT THE ANIMAL PERFECT, we're not arguing if it's right, wrong, or what if i miss.. just want some clearification...

RE: 5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

Shoulder bone will stop it or at the very least keep it from penetrating very far. Behind the shoulder it would penetrate farther, doubt it would go through a moose though, maybe, maybe not.
I would shoot him in the head with that small a caliber, that would do it everytime.

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RE: 5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

hmm.. engine block didn't stop the fmj 5.56 round.. what mkes you think the bone will?

RE: 5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

but what i'm asking is, will it break the shoulders and make the animal drop.. no, it will not be DEAD by any means nor is it a humane way to kill a game animal.. i just wondered if it went through both shoulders would it take them down

RE: 5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

Last I heard FMJ wasn't legal on big game , It might work but what is the point .

RE: 5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

how far away was this engine block?

that is a little hard to believe, but ill take your word for it. What part of the engine block did it go through??

RE: 5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

Pretty sure you are the first guy I have ever heard claim that a 5.56 penetrated clear thru an engine block, and then the rest of the car.

Sure it wasn't a 50BMG?

RE: 5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

He said don't argue with him one this one. goosh.

RE: 5.56/223 for elk/moose(don't flame me yet!)
 

first of all, i think if we can't argue with you about this, and it indeed went straight through the entire engine blocks, hitting all of the thick metal and just going right through, then it would probably be 100% that it could easily go through 2 thick bones.

but then again, remember you are using a full metal jacket which nobody uses to hunt. and such a tiny hole left by a .243 full metall jacket will be very inneficient at killing a moose even if it did.

So , with a hunting round that is made for expansion, no way would it penetrate through 2 shoulder blades. that would be tough to do even with a 300 mag.

but if you say the fmj went through an engine block, then the fmjs could easily do it.

but note, going straight through an engine block and exiting on the other side would be going through a few inches of aluminum/metal. Which is why it is incredibly hard to believe.