what part of la you from?

Thanks first shot - i saw your posts and targets before i started this thread - great gun ! before i was introduced to the socom i had all but settled on the 7600, and may still because it meets most of my needs at less cost. also did not know 10 rd was available!

barrel length would be a decision with the 7600 in my mind too, since i want longer shot capability. one of the reasons the socom remains high on my list that it is only losing about 100 fps vs. a standard 22" barrel !, based on 3 reviews read, and discussions with my local gunsmith and SA. apparently, the muzzle compenstor design is affecting retention of energy or something... SA quotes 50-60 fps loss per inch, except with the socom. if true, to me to have the velocity of a 21" barrel in a 16" package is real advantagous and extends the working range of this gun well beyond a typical carbine.

my gun smith has done many 7600 triggers and assures me he can improve if i buy one. my reference to noise was the pump stock, but you have answered this too.

thanks again

john

my wife and all of here family are from the area, all orgianlly in Slidell. My wife is with me in michigan (she thanks me all winter long for the move !). they are scattered in Harahan, Materia, Slidell, Gentelli - some are not home yet. Mom in law lives with us now.

you from the area ?

john

MO=My Opinion
"Black Guns"???
A good sling is fine and dandy. I am not a Para-Trooper or S.W.A.T. though.
Maybe you need a good pistol and a synthetic bolt action if you are all that concerned about weight.

Beretta CX4 Storm or UZI good substitute for pistol.
It would suit your 3-point harness fantasywell too.

I still think for the $ the Fal is the way to go in your situation.

Oops on the MO, didn't know - thanks

john

I got you. It's just that in my mind, hunting guns generally don't make very good self-defensive weapons. They can, but usually don't. If you want a one size fits all, just make sure you stick with iron sights or a low power scope. Trying to shoot someone breaking into the house with a rifle that has a cranked up scope is next to impossible at close range.

Out of the selections you mentioned, I'd go with the 7600(P) or the BAR. The M1A and FAL types are really terrific weapons, but they don't cheap. If I had the money, I wouldn't mind spoiling myself, but then again, I rarely have the money.

One final note regarding the SOCOM: wear ear plugs any time you're firing it!!!

Sorry no, I was just throwing it out there because it looks like a sweet rifle based on what I've read from their website and seen on some of their hunting shows. I don't have any personal experience with it, no. It is a little pricey though, isn't it? Ah well, was just a thought. It's probably a good thing that it's not on the used gun racks though. I'm like you though, have to be reasonable with the funds. Example, I bought a Ruger stainless rather then a Browning stainless that I really wanted and I'm more then satisfied.

If the $1200 price tag on an R1 has you scared off, then I am afraid that you may be out of luck on a Springfield Socom. From what I have seen on the auction sites and the few that I have seen locally, I doubt you will find one for under $1000 used at best, and the new ones that I have seen are in the $1500-1800 range.

lagniappe

I grew up in Pineville, went to shcool in Baton Rouge and then worked in both New Orleans and Mandeville before moving up here to NW Arkansas. I sure miss the La cooking and seafood.......but not the skeeters and humidity!!!!!

Have you considered a shotgun for your home defense needs? Then you could focus on a dedicated hunting rifle.

In a "home" defense situation, a high powered rifle of any caliber will be shooting through multiple walls and possibly endangering those you are trying to protect. In close quarter situations like that, I don't see how you could do much better than a short barreled 12 guage pumpshotgun like one of the police type models that hold a bunch of rounds. The Remington 870 with extended magazine holds up to 8 rounds!!

In my opinion, in close quarters, nothing demands respector delivers results likemultiple loads of 12 guage 00 buckshot!!!

I've got an old JC Higgins 12 Guage pump that holds five rounds and if you hold the trigger down it will just keep on firing when you pump a new round in.

firstshot
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Make your first shot count!

i was born in new iberia and moved to slidell. i now live in ga