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metaldonnieg 12-21-2006 10:08 PM
5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
I was at the range today firing said brand and caliber and had 5 duds (pulled the trigger, nothing. ejected the cartridge and there'd be a dent on the rim just like there should be but no shot was fired).

Is that normal?

The ammo was purchased roughly March of this year and has been stored in a military surplus ammo can when not actually being used and has never gotten wet.

I've already tossed the box just because it was the last of them otherwise I might have to pitch a fit had it been the first 100 or so. I don't remember any duds up until this point today, though.

Any input on this?

Chantecler111 12-21-2006 10:10 PM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
I had 12 do it out of 100, with the same ammo you mentioned, my philosophy is, you get what you pay for.

metaldonnieg 12-21-2006 10:15 PM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
Understood.

I had never noticed it before but so be it. As long as I'm just burning ammo seeing how many times in a row i can hit the steel spinner at 20 yards the cheapest will be fine hehe.

I was initally afraid my pistol wasn't hitting where it should but oh well, dang cheap ammo.

Chantecler111 12-21-2006 10:16 PM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
ORIGINAL: metaldonnieg

Understood.

I had never noticed it before but so be it. As long as I'm just burning ammo seeing how many times in a row i can hit the steel spinner at 20 yards the cheapest will be fine hehe.

I was initally afraid my pistol wasn't hitting where it should but oh well, dang cheap ammo.
Yeah, it shouldn't hurt anything.

LOUISIANA WHITETAILS 12-21-2006 10:25 PM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
Same problem man.

TUK101 12-22-2006 12:25 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
Yeah, we are paying more and more for cheap .22 ammo and it seems to be getting worse for the amount of duds in them. I have an old .22 single shot Winchester bolt action that usually will get those duds to fire off though. The firing pin must hit just a bit harder or something. Winchester ammo has always given me the most duds though, and a lot of bullets that tend to not go far out of the barrel too lol. Oh well, even with a dud every 50-100 rounds you still cant fire a gun as cheaply as you can a .22lr. Its still scary and frustrating to boot when they dont go off, and it usually causes a jamb up in a semi-auto.

lead poisoner 12-22-2006 01:06 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
ORIGINAL: metaldonnieg

I was at the range today firing said brand and caliber and had 5 duds (pulled the trigger, nothing. ejected the cartridge and there'd be a dent on the rim just like there should be but no shot was fired).

Is that normal?

The ammo was purchased roughly March of this year and has been stored in a military surplus ammo can when not actually being used and has never gotten wet.

I've already tossed the box just because it was the last of them otherwise I might have to pitch a fit had it been the first 100 or so. I don't remember any duds up until this point today, though.

Any input on this?
I buy mine in bricks and can honestly say that maybe 3 at the most wont go off out of 500. I had shot off a bricks of them and they all went off before. You might have a gunsmith look at your gun.The fireing pin might be worn down or your spring is getting to loose.If you got another 22 to try them duds in and see if it is your gun first. Browning deer rifles had that problem.The pin wouldn't work with remington ammo all the time.Pissed me off when you got a deer in sight and squeeze the trigger click.I went thru 3 shells before one went off. The gunsmith told me that browning does not recommend remmington shells for their guns.After a new longer fireing pin was installed, I never had that problem again.

ruger357w 12-22-2006 03:42 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
I shoot federal's in my 22's. Out of 1000 rounds I've maybe had one or two duds tops.

Paul L Mohr 12-22-2006 05:02 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
I have never had much luck with reminton .22 ammo, escecially the cheap bulk stuff. Unless it's the only thing my rifle will shoot well I try and stay away from it. Just a personal preferance though.

I like winchester and CCI personally. I don't normally buy bulk ammo either.

Paul

Pickerel 12-22-2006 07:25 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
I'll see your five .22 duds in a row and raise you this: last spring while working with the local retriever club, they were throwing the flyer. They had two shooters with an over/under and side by side. Threw the duck into the air, and all four barrels misfired! :D I think they cursed louder than the shotguns would have been had they fired! :D

JeffS 12-22-2006 08:25 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
We have the same problem with the bulk Remington ammo. We can normally feed the duds through our rifles and they will fire. Though we switched to Winchester and Federal and haven't had as many problems with them. I figure when we are just playingg aroundI don't mind a few duds since we can save money. I've notived when we buy the more expensive rounds we don't ever have any problems with duds. Though since we go through around 1500 rounds on a weekend with our pistols I figure 5 or so duds is a small price to pay to save some money.

DannyD 12-22-2006 08:39 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
I know that when i was using the remmington brick ammo i was getting a few (maybe 10) duds in the box.
I bought the federal brick and I don't recall having more than 1 or 2 in the last few boxes total.

birdman686 12-22-2006 09:32 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
i use CCI, and never have any problems, especially since i buy cases of it...i dunno, never really shot anything else through my 10/22

JeffS 12-22-2006 09:36 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
i use CCI, and never have any problems, especially since i buy cases of it...i dunno, never really shot anything else through my 10/22
The CCI works great through rifles but it will not shoot in my pistol. It will fire and then the case will jam up. I think they may be loaded to higher pressures and the case is expanding.

metaldonnieg 12-22-2006 11:58 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
ORIGINAL: lead poisoner

ORIGINAL: metaldonnieg

I was at the range today firing said brand and caliber and had 5 duds (pulled the trigger, nothing. ejected the cartridge and there'd be a dent on the rim just like there should be but no shot was fired).

Is that normal?

The ammo was purchased roughly March of this year and has been stored in a military surplus ammo can when not actually being used and has never gotten wet.

I've already tossed the box just because it was the last of them otherwise I might have to pitch a fit had it been the first 100 or so. I don't remember any duds up until this point today, though.

Any input on this?
I buy mine in bricks and can honestly say that maybe 3 at the most wont go off out of 500. I had shot off a bricks of them and they all went off before. You might have a gunsmith look at your gun.The fireing pin might be worn down or your spring is getting to loose.If you got another 22 to try them duds in and see if it is your gun first. Browning deer rifles had that problem.The pin wouldn't work with remington ammo all the time.Pissed me off when you got a deer in sight and squeeze the trigger click.I went thru 3 shells before one went off. The gunsmith told me that browning does not recommend remmington shells for their guns.After a new longer fireing pin was installed, I never had that problem again.
How coincidental, it was a Browning Buckmark pistol. Research time!

outdoorslover 12-22-2006 12:06 PM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
Same problem here. It happens with about 15% of 100 rounds with me. It's just cheap ammo. If you get the expensive rounds it rarely happens.

TUK101 12-22-2006 04:16 PM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
Yeah, I have some of the minimag ammo and I have never had a misfire. But that stuff is like $7 for 100 rounds. I just use it as fail safe ammo when I am going plunking at live targets.

ranger140892 12-22-2006 06:16 PM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
More than likely a firearm issue

SwampCollie 12-23-2006 08:53 AM
RE: 5 duds in approx. 100 rounds? Remington 22lr
 
I had a bunch of Eley's misfire on me. Happend frequently. Eley is THE best rimfire ammo, period. Especially when it comes to quality control.

I rebuilt that Ruger 77/22 a few months ago, and while I did it, I replaced the firing pin. Have put over 1000 rounds of all sorts of different stuff through it since, and haven't had the first hiccup.

I suspect that the problem with some (not all, but some) misfires in a rimfire comes from the firing pin. Everytime you shoot it (but espeically when it is dry fired) you are doing just a bit of harm to your firing pin.


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