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Old 12-19-2006, 08:11 AM
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I am starting to build a 35 whelan on a budget.
It won't cost you even one dime to learn how to spell Whelen properly...

Anyway, i've hammered a fewmoose ect..with 350 Rem. mags and they are the same difference to a Whelen. They do work pretty good, it's just at that time, i was crawling around in the bush after brown bearsand from my test the .338-06 would out penetrate the 35's... So i went with the .338-06 instead..

These days with NP's available in 35 cal., that may change things a bit??

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Old 12-25-2006, 06:24 AM
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you folks that call the 35 Whelen slow and lacking "power" really crack me up...
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Old 12-25-2006, 10:26 AM
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I've had experience with that same, rifle/caliber combo before, I haven't been to impressed with the .35 Whelen, its slow, and big, and not all that powerful. The gun you speak of, however, would make a good gun to carry in the woods.
You have to be kidding here right? The .35 Whelen is one one of the hardest hitting rounds around. My buddy shoots one and I have witnessed him flatten caribou at 300 yds like they were hit with a lightning bolt. I have also seen moose flip into the twigs when shot by one. I shoot a .350 rem mag which is basically the same and have never had to shoot twice at any deer , bear or moose I have killed with it. It shoots as flat as most other rounds out to 300 yds and kills way better inside that range. I would have no qualms at all in shooting a grizzly with my .350. I have dropped black bears in thier tracks that were not that much smaller.
I wonder how you can have experience with that rifle/cartridge combo since its quite new?
This reply shows me that you have never killed any game with a .35 cal rifle and I wonder if you have ever owned one at all since its not called "Magnum"? As for factory ammo, remington chambers this round again and has for a while which will guarantee factory ammo will be around.
If you don't have "real" experience with this round then don't give advice. Especially when you base your information on magazine articles.[:@]
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Old 12-25-2006, 10:48 AM
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The 35 Whelen deveopes nearly 3400 lbs ME with a 225 grain bullet. Remington loads a 200 grain and 250 grain Corlokts for it. I have heard that Federal is going to drop the ammo for it but I can't swear to that. Its also handy that you can load the 357 pistol bullets in it for plinking. Sierra makes a 200 grain round nose and a 225 Grain BTSP.

I have one in the NEF Handi rifle. You can add some more punch to this one in the NEF by reaming it to 35 Hhelen AI.

Have not tried the Remington semi auto.
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Old 12-25-2006, 02:07 PM
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I've had experience with that same, rifle/caliber combo before, I haven't been to impressed with the .35 Whelen, its slow, and big, and not all that powerful. The gun you speak of, however, would make a good gun to carry in the woods.
You have to be kidding here right? The .35 Whelen is one one of the hardest hitting rounds around. My buddy shoots one and I have witnessed him flatten caribou at 300 yds like they were hit with a lightning bolt. I have also seen moose flip into the twigs when shot by one. I shoot a .350 rem mag which is basically the same and have never had to shoot twice at any deer , bear or moose I have killed with it. It shoots as flat as most other rounds out to 300 yds and kills way better inside that range. I would have no qualms at all in shooting a grizzly with my .350. I have dropped black bears in thier tracks that were not that much smaller.
I wonder how you can have experience with that rifle/cartridge combo since its quite new?
This reply shows me that you have never killed any game with a .35 cal rifle and I wonder if you have ever owned one at all since its not called "Magnum"? As for factory ammo, remington chambers this round again and has for a while which will guarantee factory ammo will be around.
If you don't have "real" experience with this round then don't give advice. Especially when you base your information on magazine articles.[:@]
There is nothing wrong with the .35 Whelen, but, you are incorrect in saying that it is one of the hardest hitting cartridges around, I can think of 2 cartridges right off hand that hit harder, I have had experience with the .35 Whelen, I saw it kill a deer, once, and saw the damage it did, not all that impressive, and if I want a heavy hitting medium bore, I reach for the tried and true .338 Win Mag, or .375 H&H, they WILL get the job done, and with plenty of energy to spare. I have also seen a man shooting one of those Remington Guide Gun rigs, in .350 Rem Mag, I wasn't impressed with it either, I never have, and never will, be a fan of the .35 Cal cartridge. I almost forgot, the .338 caliber bullets have a higher SD, than the .35 caliber, so they will naturally, be better at killing game, when penetration is needed.
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Old 12-25-2006, 04:59 PM
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This thread cracks me up. The 35 Whelen and Ackley Improved version are the hardest hitting non-magnumMoose cartridges on Earth. A 250 gr Grand Slam Speer at 2600'/sec zeroed at 150 yards is one inch high at 100 yards with 3179'/lbs energy and -2.7 low at 200 yards with 2570' lbs energy. Add 100'/sec for the Ackley and the numbers are more impressive

A 150 gr 30'06 Nosler going 2900'/sec at the muzzle at100 and 200 yards have around 500'/lbs less energy at each range.

Now someone here please school me on how anemic the 35 Whelen cartridge is or please post some numbers to challenge this data....shoot, use 300 Win Mag data for all I care! This is crazy! I want emperical evidence not "I think" stuff.

Regards, Rick.
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Old 12-25-2006, 06:25 PM
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Here you are wise guy.
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Old 12-25-2006, 06:34 PM
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The 35's lack the SD of the .338, as well.
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Old 12-25-2006, 06:34 PM
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The hardest hitting non magnum on earth is the 50 BMG.
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Old 12-25-2006, 07:19 PM
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I like this calibre a lot. I shot my first deer with it, and have carried it on a few moose hunts too. I like it because I don't find the recoil bad at all with factory Remington 250's, and it'll knock things down in a hurry.





My first deer, 20 yards with a .35 Whelen
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