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Ya know I just feel sorry for him after the bullet seating post I know he is a bag of air now. But oh well it will still be fun I just have to find a day when I can drive down there. Probally around Jan 15th but I will have to see. I will keep you posted !!!!!

RE: 35 Whelen
 

"Really smoked myself" ???
Actually if you read the original question the person asked about a "REMINGTON 750 in .35 Whelen" which is what I referred to genius, keep laughing if it gets you through the day. I am quite familiar with the heritage and history of the whelen thank you. The Remington 750 on the other hand I think came out in 2006. I have owned 4 different .35 caliber rifles and have actually hunted with them and taken game up to the size of moose. I laugh when I read posts from kids who say they saw "a guy shoot a guide gun at the range once" and then proceeded to pass judgement on its game killing capabilities and compare it to a .300 ultra mag and a .50 BMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Either the opinion of just a kid or someone not much brighter.

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DM! Does the Epps place still build rifles? I know what you mean about the old gun shops. The ones back home when i was a kid were always full of old guys telling stories. You could look for ever or just spend the day shootin' the breeze. The one was owned buy a real good gunsmith. Though i have to addmit i like the colledge girls that work at the ones here. They are killing my wallet though.

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I don't think so.... When Mr. Epps passed away, the business was sold to one of his employee's who runs it with his wife. They also haveseveral employee's helping them out...

The thing that i like about the old gunshops is, there's still the old time feel about the place, and still some "old stock" hidden away in the cornersof"old time" drawersand gun cabinets thatthose old shops had with old posters on the walls...

They do have some newer clothing ect. too...

DM

RE: 35 Whelen
 

I was home a while back. The extractor on my 721 broke. The guy not only had one but swapped it for free. I bought four boxes of shells from him anyway.

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Mr. Epps was the one who built the gun. He was good friends with my great-grandpa. My dad was there about......10 years ago and he said it's nothing like it was when he was a kid. He said as a kid, he could hardly walk down the aisles it was so full of things. Actually, according to Mr. Epps, my dad was one of the first people in Canada to use a Beetle Spin Spinner (you know the jig with the little spinner arm on it). Justa little fact ;)We drive past it everytime we come home from my grandparents, but we never stop there, always as BP, because its in the mall. I really want to go there sometime though.

RE: 35 Whelen
 

The Ellwood Epps store was sold to the Winkel family a few years ago. I know them well and its where I buy all my guns and accessories, ammo etc. They have excellent gunsmiths on staff and yes they can build you anything you want from scratch. Although they have invested alot of time and money into the shop and equipment it very much is a old style gun shop with people behind the counter who will know more than most. Ask for Wes at 705 689 5333 www.ellwoodepps.com

RE: 35 Whelen
 

Thanks for straightening me out on that Terry M,

DM

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Hey DM! I had a yupi gunshop experiance last night. I asked to see a Pearl handled Super Blackhawk. This kid (who makes a point of telling about all his firearms) tells me how much he liked this Redhawk. Then when i asked to see a Model 7, he grabs a M77 compact. Well, atleast he got the general size correct.

RE: 35 Whelen
 

It's a tough situation. Folks want to buy there guns ect.. as cheap as possible, so the gun stores can't afford to hire anyone other than a "body" to fill a slot....

Like most things in life, you get what you pay for...

DM

RE: 35 Whelen
 

Actually, Chantelcer 111 works at a shooting range, so I betcha he's able to judge a heck of alot more out of seeing someone shoot it, looking at the target, and generally watching how the gun is fired.

Anyhow, you really do get cocky, I see no reason for you to have shot your mouth off posting like that. With that kind of attitude, I don't suppose you've gotten much good out of life in the social aspect.
That may not be true, but you sure give that kind of impression.

"Either the opinion of just a kid or someone not much brighter."

Hmmmm....... How is a kid automatically stupid? Mozart played for the Emporer of the Austrian Empire when he was 3 or 4! I seriously hope you're not really thinking that that's a real example of what you're trying to say.

RE: 35 Whelen
 

I love this forum!!!!! I'm a huge 35 cal fan and quite a bit of experience shooting, hunting and handloading the .358 Win and the .35 Whelen.
I sold my Rem 700 Classic 35 whelen 2 years ago and now regret it ever since. I customized it a bit. Put a synthetic Bell & Carleson stock on it, floated the barrel,had the crown recut to 11 degrees, trigger job done to 3.5 very crisp lbs and a few lapping tweaks to the action. Now, I had a real shooter!!
With my handloads I averaged ( measured w/calipers)1"-1.03" at 100 yds benched with 200 grain and 225 grain pills. 56 grains of 4064 and a 200 grain Rem PSP or Barnes X shot very well and knocked critters down where they stood. Load a 225 grain Sierra Gameking SPBT with 53 gr of H4895 or BL(C)2 at 56.5 grains and you've got a super butt kicker!! I think from shooting both the .358 Win and the .35 Whelen,I seem to find that the 35's love the 225 grain pill best. My friend and I both useour Whelens on deer, black bear and moose and can state through experience that the .35 Whelen is one excllent round. I agree that factory ammo in this caliber leaves much to be desired, but if your a handloader and know how to play at the loadingbench you'll be amazed at what you can make the Whelen do. I'm now looking for another one to buy so I can rebuild what I once had.
Just as a tid bit: the .358 Win handloaded with a 250 grain pill kicks the snot out of hogs!!! Be like Mikey. Try it, you'll like it!!!

RE: 35 Whelen
 

You have just gone ahead and once again proven my point. Read the original question asked and you will see that the poster was asking about the Remington 750 chambered in .35 Whelen which by the way was introduced this year. And secondly if you think that watching somebody shoot a rifle and looking at the hole in the paper target is a good way of accumulating information and then giving advice based on that then you are truly inexperienced and should not offer advice either. You kids should learn by doing things a bit more than just reading marketing brochures. And I get tired of reading all the BS from some "internet experts" who have owned every rifle/cartridge ever discussed but in fact just pick up trash and mow the lawn part time in a gun club.

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Yes, I read the question. He asked if anyone had experience with that rifle OR CAILBER!
I stated MY experience with the Whelen. Whats yours??? From the likes of your comment, I surmize that you look down your nose at many of these posts thinking you've got itall over the other guys. Maybe I'm wrong about you, but thats my take on your comment.
I personally have a little over 20 years experiencehunting with rifles,shooting in competition and for self pleasure. I've been reloading for 18 of those 20 years. I think I at least deserve a little more courtesy than just an "Internet Expert" My holes in paper equate to better down range performance and that in turn relates to how that particular round will perform when I do my part with it. Come see my game room and my photo albums and talk with my hunting/shooting comradesand then maybe you're informed enough to pass judgement on my qualifications. Enough said.
To the gent who started this forum, please excuse my rebuttal as it does not pertain to your original question. Theinfo I've shared with you and the other readers is good Whelen material and can be noted as such. If you decide to go with this round, feel free to try my loads and see if they're ok in your gun. As far as hunting goes, take the Whelenin the woods and see for yourself what it can do.
If you're abook reader or interent surfer, you can find commentaries from Col. Craig Boddington, Clay Harvey, Bryce Townsley, just to name a few gunwriters who regard the .35 Whelen as an excellent round. Clay Harvey sold me on both the .35 Whelen and .358 Winchester many years ago when I read his book. I still hunt with the .358 Win and am looking to get my hands on another .35 Whelen. The .35's will not let you down.

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358man,
I hope you don't think my last post was directed at you in any way, it was not. It was in response to younggun243 who was commenting on another previous post from an obviously inexperienced wannabe ( chantecler111 ) where I called him out for passing judgement on the effectiveness of .35 cals entirely from watching a person shoot one on paper. I have owned 2 .358 wins and presently own a .350 win mag. I also have a couple buddies who shoot the Whelen. We all shoot handloads exclusively and hunt deer, bear and moose every year with them. I have also witnessed 6 different caribou get killed with them up to 300 yds. Trust me, I am not in anyway flaming you or the .35 cals. I'm just tired of inexperienced wannabe's giving advice about things they have no experience with who were raised in the magnum craze era who think that anything under 3000 fps is inadequate to hunt with.

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3000 fps is inadequate to hunt with?

He never said that, he said he liked the performance of the .338 Win. Mag. better, and that that was his preference, he never said anything was wrong with the Whelen, he just said he wasn't impressed with it.

People are different, you've just gotta' get used to it.

RE: 35 Whelen
 

Ellwood epps also built a rifle for my great grandfather except the rifle was a 30-30 built on a ross 1905 action, nice rifle, havent hunted with it yet but i plan on it someday.