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Icedragon 12-08-2006 03:21 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
I have a Marlin 30-30, I used to hunt with it but now I use my 30-06. I also used to think that 30-30s were better for thicker hunting situations as opposed to the 30-06 and come to find out they are relatively equal in a sense were one wouldnt be praised over the other. Now in long range shots...different story obviously!

Buckeye! 12-08-2006 06:17 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
I would be quite comfortable with a 200 yd. shot( I feel thats not the limit with a 30-30 in capable hands, and eyes)on a Whitetail with my 30-30.

And thats my about my limit with any cartridge for a Whitetail.

Icedragon 12-08-2006 06:42 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 

ORIGINAL: Buckeye!

I would be quite comfortable with a 200 yd. shot( I feel thats not the limit with a 30-30 in capable hands, and eyes)on a Whitetail with my 30-30.

And thats my about my limit with any cartridge for a Whitetail.
Actually I do agree with this statement as opposed to the more misleading statement I said above about long range inefficiency with the 30-30. It is (your right) fully capable of long range shots in the hands of a skilled shooter.

Alex The Hawk 12-08-2006 06:53 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
Well what happened to the 1/2 mile shots in the cowboy movies with a 30-30 ? LOL

Buckeye! 12-08-2006 07:13 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
I've always liked those long distance shots with a Henry Rifle (Dances with coyotes )I 'm sorry I meant Wolves...

TUK101 12-08-2006 08:24 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
It may not be the best gun in the world, but then again that is all just a matter of opinion and I myself like them for thier comfort to pack, carry and shoot. Ballistically they dont light up the chart, but then again with new technology in bullet design they are sure catching up. I mean heck, if you where to have to load your magnum gun in a flat tipped bullet it would slow the ballistics down quite a bit too. Now dont get me wrong, I know that the mags are in a league of thier own in the power department, but my point is that you just dont need anything more to kill deer with. If you have to take extremely long shots at deer you are either doing it for the challenge of taking the long shot or you are just way too lazy to actually get out there and HUNT for your game. Nothing wrong with either, and it is your right to be able to do either, but for me I enjoy the challenge of trying to get close to the deer before I shoot them.

matt068 12-09-2006 12:54 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
i HAVE A CONTENDER IN 30-30 LOVE IT

Buckeye! 12-09-2006 04:34 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
In the newest Rifle Magazine theres a article about RN bullets VS Spire pointed bullets shot out of a 30-30 ,I was surprised with the results ...they was very little difference.

Buckeye

Phil from Maine 12-09-2006 07:09 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 

I also used to think that 30-30s were better for thicker hunting situations as opposed to the 30-06 and come to find out they are relatively equal in a sense were one wouldnt be praised over the other
Try your comparison out for real you will see the 30-30 will out shoot your 30-06 ... 10 to1 in the old growth cuttings up here. Those hardwood sapplings will throw your bullets off quicker than heck. High power doesn't do much good when you see most of your deer in this thick stuff. When they are hit you will being doing a lot more tracking than you anticipated. Here alot more deer are lost under these conditions when using the higher power in the thick stuff.

retrieverman 12-09-2006 07:35 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 

ORIGINAL: Phil from Maine


I also used to think that 30-30s were better for thicker hunting situations as opposed to the 30-06 and come to find out they are relatively equal in a sense were one wouldnt be praised over the other
Try your comparison out for real you will see the 30-30 will out shoot your 30-06 ... 10 to1 in the old growth cuttings up here. Those hardwood sapplings will throw your bullets off quicker than heck. High power doesn't do much good when you see most of your deer in this thick stuff. When they are hit you will being doing a lot more tracking than you anticipated. Here alot more deer are lost under these conditions when using the higher power in the thick stuff.
Even though I am a huge fan of the 30-30, you lost me on this one. Shooting through brush makes for a low percentage shot no matter what caliber you are shooting.

Phil from Maine 12-09-2006 07:43 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 

Shooting through brush makes for a low percentage shot no matter what caliber you are shooting.
This a true statement, however in this neck of the woods with paper companies and lumber mills you have alot of thick growth from the cuttings and for a rifle your would be doing much better with the 30-30 and not the high power some would recommend. Other than that use a shotgun.

goyard74 12-09-2006 08:54 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
i do once in awhile but my 30-30 is a antique. its a old pre 64 and i want too keep her nice so i dont take her out much anymore. i also have a nice pre 64 lever action 32 as well that i luv but doesnt come out much anymore

TUK101 12-09-2006 06:18 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
Yeah, I have read some articles on this where they have done tests and all of the guns shot through twigs and branches had thier shots knocked off line to where they where deflected and hit nothing they where aiming at. It didnt matter which caliber or which style of rifle. It didnt matter if it was a leaf or twig if the shot hit it, it was deflected enough to throw the shot off track. The terminology of a "Brush Gun" was meant to describe how you used the gun, not how accurate it was when it hit the stuff. There is some truth to a 30-30 being a better close range gun though since the gun kills better up close than a 30.06. Something about the way that baliistics and the way the bullet mushrooms rather than going clean through without expanding enough. I am not an expert in this area so I will leave it at that.

Catus Magnus 12-09-2006 06:43 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 

There is some truth to a 30-30 being a better close range gun though since the gun kills better up close than a 30.06. Something about the way that baliistics and the way the bullet mushrooms rather than going clean through without expanding enough.
Flat/round-nosed bullets do a better job than pointy ones, IMHO.

TUK101 12-10-2006 11:07 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 

ORIGINAL: Phil from Maine


Shooting through brush makes for a low percentage shot no matter what caliber you are shooting.
This a true statement, however in this neck of the woods with paper companies and lumber mills you have alot of thick growth from the cuttings and for a rifle your would be doing much better with the 30-30 and not the high power some would recommend. Other than that use a shotgun.
This is one of the reasons that I have been looking into bow hunting. The challenge of getting close enough to the game to get a clean shot and the fact that I dont have to worry about my shot going 2-3 miles before it touches ground. I love my guns, but man is it getting tough to fine someplace to hunt that isnt thick with strangers coming from the city to infest my woods lol.

Phil from Maine 12-10-2006 11:26 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 

i also have a nice pre 64 lever action 32 as well that i luv but doesnt come out much anymore
Yes those are good in this stuff too, I have not seen one of those in a long time.


This is one of the reasons that I have been looking into bow hunting. The challenge of getting close enough to the game to get a clean shot and the fact that I dont have to worry about my shot going 2-3 miles before it touches ground. I love my guns, but man is it getting tough to fine someplace to hunt that isnt thick with strangers coming from the city to infest my woods lol.
Yes, I hunt with a bow also in this stuff and have shot four deer with it. That equals four years of hunting as we can only shoot 1 deer a year here. currently they are trying to change the law to allow onewith a bow and one with a gun but, so far it is still one deer either sex. And here Maine is pretty rural with lots of woods so we are not hard pressed to find a good hunting place. Southern Maine is a different story and most of the places there are posted so a big waste of time for me.

Bocajnala 12-11-2006 10:09 AM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
Yea I hunt with one when I am driving. Pleanty of power and range. Makes Clean kills. I saw two deer shot at onco with a 30-30. Very clean kill, so dont question the power of it.

Buckeye! 12-11-2006 01:21 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
Heres a pic. of my 30 WCFwith a1.5 Burris mounted.

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1062988/00f.jpg

Airsoft Dude 06-01-2007 06:35 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
lol cant you get put in jail for that... lol hunting out of a car well at least here in michigan it is! lol

Airsoft Dude 06-01-2007 06:36 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
That was in reply to bocajnala ok buck!

Hog Killer 06-01-2007 07:37 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 

ORIGINAL: mossy33oak

:D Didnt you get the memo that all of us hunters have all switched over to the brand new 30-06 round? They just brought it out this year, thats why its called the 30 (caliber) 06 (the year they brought it out 2006) ;)
the 30-06 has been around since WWII what do yoiu think the M1 Grande was. I have a weatherby 30-06 that belonged to my grandfather.

Airsoft Dude 06-02-2007 08:41 PM

RE: 30-30 owners
 
lol hog nice! yea you get the memo mossy 30-06 has been around fora log long long long ect. time!


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