Sorry, double post.

[quote]ORIGINAL: BrutalAttack

That's what I'm asking. What would the minimum combination of velocity and foot pounds be. Then again, you bring up a good point, depends on the type of bullet. Let's assume a co-efficient of .500 and a muzzle velocity of 3240. Now there are not too many left over variables to consider.

In the end, the real question would depend on the animal itself. Given that most species would be similar enough to each other that an "average" could be made, then what type of velocity and foot pounds of energy would the "average" adult male hog require to penetrate the chest cavity with a bullet with the above mentioned ballistics?

I just wondered. Is there a formula for density vs. velocity and energy? Or is there some chart made up by a hunting fanatic? I just wondered. That's all.

Yeah you edited your post while I was writing mine. But I captured your jerky reply before you could edit and I'm sure you didn't like that. Follow?

Oh and yes I'm sure you're very special. At least your mom thinks so.

lol,

you might dig up my first big bull if you look hard enough.








I'm sure that's how you imagine me anyway lol.

Here just might be what you're looking for:

http://www.eskimo.com/~jbm/calculations/calculations.html

First, you need to get some experience, and then you can come back. Dad gone man, sounds like nobody believes your fantasies.

Deer are pretty simular to people in size and construction, so if it would pentitrate a person it will most likely do it to a deer. If you are asking if you could kill a deer by accident when shooting at 800 yards, most likely if you are shooting anything that will reach that distance it will still have enough energy to injure an animal. A .308 will kill a human at 1000 meters with a well placed shot. Deer are not that hard to kill, they just don't respond the same to pain and will run farther when hit, and they have a better circulatory system then we do obviously. So it seems like they are harder to kill. The truth is they are dead, they just don't know it yet.

Hogs are bit tougher, but not bullet proof by any means.

The figures you see are what some so called experts say you need to make an effecient, ethical kill. And it varies quite a bit depending on what you read and who you talk to. That does not however mean a projectile moving much slower can't kill an animal. If it punctures a lung or severs an artery it will die. I mean people can kill moose with a bow and arrow.

How far the bullet would penitrate an animal would really depend on the weight of the bullet, the speed at impact and how the bullet was designed. A FMJ bullet would penitrate more than a bullet disigned to expand on impact. Unless however it it didn't have enough speed to expand.

And for the record some of the dumbest people I have met were college educated, and some of the smartest were high school drop outs. I know a few engineers that are plenty book smart, but I honestly don't know how they dress themselves in the mornings they are so out of touch with reality.

Paul

Bullet construction will play a major role but the bottom line is that a few hundred foot pounds is all it takes to cleanly kill a deer sized animal. Most of the so called experts that come up with the charts are far from experts. Most reccomend 1000 for deer and 1500 for elk. Hogwash. You don't need anywhere that amount of energy.

Remember that you only need to get half way in to put a bullet through the heart of an animal.

So you'd feel comfortable hitting an elk at 400 yards with a .243 (Sierra GameKing 1021 ft/lbs)?? If it doesn't take "near 1500" ft/lbs then I guess you would be.

You're irresponsible to even suggest that. I hope you're joking.

Wow look out we have a MENSA appilcant here. Thanks Captain Obvious.