Deer rifle for small shooter
10-23-2006 | 09:52 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
If it were me I would go with a Remington Model 7 in .243, 7mm-08 or .308.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_seven/
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_seven/
10-23-2006 | 09:58 AM
#12
Dominant Buck
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot
Remember the Rem Mohawk. Nice small frame rifle.
Remember the Rem Mohawk. Nice small frame rifle.
10-23-2006 | 10:15 AM
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
The reason I can recommend them is because they work. I know I have tried them. The bullets offer up plenty of weight, and they are designed to expand at lower velocities. The idea is a great one for kids and women to start with. If you get a .243, then thats all you have is a .243. But if you got a .308, then shot the low recoil rounds, You would have a gun that shoots like a .243, but after getting accustomed to the gun and recoil, you would also have the option of feeding it full power .308 rounds with a wider range of offerings and uses.
I have no idea if you have shot those rounds or not. If you have not then you should try them before you tell someone how bad they are. Being wrong is not shameful, if you have any idea of that which you are speaking, but being wrong when you don't have any experience to draw upon is just dumb. I can speak with experience. That is what allows me to say they work and work well, and nothing you can say or do will ever change that, but if you don't like them, no one will try to make you use them. Just don't try to mislead other people who might benefit from them.
Sometimes it seems like there is a personal agenda around every corner.
Remenber, we all have opinions, some are informed, some are not, but because of that , the companies make many different offerings .... enough so that almost anyone can find something that might work for them.
And I am sorry if my explaination is beyond you. But sometimes it just beeeeesss that way. Pick up a box and give em' a try.
I have no idea if you have shot those rounds or not. If you have not then you should try them before you tell someone how bad they are. Being wrong is not shameful, if you have any idea of that which you are speaking, but being wrong when you don't have any experience to draw upon is just dumb. I can speak with experience. That is what allows me to say they work and work well, and nothing you can say or do will ever change that, but if you don't like them, no one will try to make you use them. Just don't try to mislead other people who might benefit from them.
Sometimes it seems like there is a personal agenda around every corner.
Remenber, we all have opinions, some are informed, some are not, but because of that , the companies make many different offerings .... enough so that almost anyone can find something that might work for them.
And I am sorry if my explaination is beyond you. But sometimes it just beeeeesss that way. Pick up a box and give em' a try.
10-23-2006 | 10:23 AM
#14
Boone & Crockett
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
I got my son (about 5'0" and about 85 lbs) a Remington Model 7 Youth in .243. It's a very nice little rifle, and when he gets a bit bigger, we'll swap out the stock for the adult sized one. The .243 is an outstandingcartridge, an accurate, flat shooter,that works quite well on Texas Hill Country sized whitetails.
10-23-2006 | 10:30 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
ORIGINAL: MichaelT.
The reason I can recommend them is because they work. I know I have tried them. The bullets offer up plenty of weight, and they are designed to expand at lower velocities. The idea is a great one for kids and women to start with. If you get a .243, then thats all you have is a .243. But if you got a .308, then shot the low recoil rounds, You would have a gun that shoots like a .243, but after getting accustomed to the gun and recoil, you would also have the option of feeding it full power .308 rounds with a wider range of offerings and uses.
I have no idea if you have shot those rounds or not. If you have not then you should try them before you tell someone how bad they are. Being wrong is not shameful, if you have any idea of that which you are speaking, but being wrong when you don't have any experience to draw upon is just dumb. I can speak with experience. That is what allows me to say they work and work well, and nothing you can say or do will ever change that, but if you don't like them, no one will try to make you use them. Just don't try to mislead other people who might benefit from them.
Sometimes it seems like there is a personal agenda around every corner.
Remenber, we all have opinions, some are informed, some are not, but because of that , the companies make many different offerings .... enough so that almost anyone can find something that might work for them.
And I am sorry if my explaination is beyond you. But sometimes it just beeeeesss that way. Pick up a box and give em' a try.
The reason I can recommend them is because they work. I know I have tried them. The bullets offer up plenty of weight, and they are designed to expand at lower velocities. The idea is a great one for kids and women to start with. If you get a .243, then thats all you have is a .243. But if you got a .308, then shot the low recoil rounds, You would have a gun that shoots like a .243, but after getting accustomed to the gun and recoil, you would also have the option of feeding it full power .308 rounds with a wider range of offerings and uses.
I have no idea if you have shot those rounds or not. If you have not then you should try them before you tell someone how bad they are. Being wrong is not shameful, if you have any idea of that which you are speaking, but being wrong when you don't have any experience to draw upon is just dumb. I can speak with experience. That is what allows me to say they work and work well, and nothing you can say or do will ever change that, but if you don't like them, no one will try to make you use them. Just don't try to mislead other people who might benefit from them.
Sometimes it seems like there is a personal agenda around every corner.
Remenber, we all have opinions, some are informed, some are not, but because of that , the companies make many different offerings .... enough so that almost anyone can find something that might work for them.
And I am sorry if my explaination is beyond you. But sometimes it just beeeeesss that way. Pick up a box and give em' a try.
You need to use quotes to reply to people to aviod confusion.
10-23-2006 | 10:35 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot
Remember the Rem Mohawk. Nice small frame rifle. I saw 3 of them at my local gunshop in that price range. Thay had 2 in .243 and one in a 6mm.
I would go with either .
I wouldnt reccomend managed recoil rounds unless you already had a large caliber rifle, but if your buying one I'd go with the .243. Managed recoil roundsaint got nothingon the .243, the bullets just dont offer the sectional density nor the veloity coupled with a rapid expanding bullet, now that spells trouble in my book.Why ayone would recomend them is beyond me.
Remember the Rem Mohawk. Nice small frame rifle. I saw 3 of them at my local gunshop in that price range. Thay had 2 in .243 and one in a 6mm.
I would go with either .
I wouldnt reccomend managed recoil rounds unless you already had a large caliber rifle, but if your buying one I'd go with the .243. Managed recoil roundsaint got nothingon the .243, the bullets just dont offer the sectional density nor the veloity coupled with a rapid expanding bullet, now that spells trouble in my book.Why ayone would recomend them is beyond me.
I would say "beware" just by virtue of the fact that the .243 is probably considered borderline for deer already and they can't reduce recoil without also sacrificing some energy.
10-23-2006 | 02:42 PM
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
Brutal,
I was replying to zrexpilot , the last post on page one.
I should have used quotes. Make a mental note next time.....
And no there is no low recoil for a .243, it is not necessary. I do not know where that idea came up. I did not mention it.
Anyway, I just thought I would let ya know where my explaination was directed.
Have a good one.
I was replying to zrexpilot , the last post on page one.
I should have used quotes. Make a mental note next time.....
And no there is no low recoil for a .243, it is not necessary. I do not know where that idea came up. I did not mention it.
Anyway, I just thought I would let ya know where my explaination was directed.
Have a good one.
10-23-2006 | 02:59 PM
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
ORIGINAL: MichaelT.
Brutal,
I was replying to zrexpilot , the last post on page one.
I should have used quotes. Make a mental note next time.....
And no there is no low recoil for a .243, it is not necessary. I do not know where that idea came up. I did not mention it.
Anyway, I just thought I would let ya know where my explaination was directed.
Have a good one.
Brutal,
I was replying to zrexpilot , the last post on page one.
I should have used quotes. Make a mental note next time.....
And no there is no low recoil for a .243, it is not necessary. I do not know where that idea came up. I did not mention it.
Anyway, I just thought I would let ya know where my explaination was directed.
Have a good one.
10-23-2006 | 04:16 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
No I wasnt talking about low recoil rounds in the .243. People will say a .243 is minimal round for deer or inadequate, but then in the same breath suggest 30-06 low recoil rounds. pffffffft! Managed recoil rounds cant even compare to what the .243 gives. Low recoil rounds dont have the B.C nor S.D of the .243. coupled with low velocity and a rapid expanding bullet now youve barely got an adequate combination.
The .243 is the way to go.
The .243 is the way to go.
10-23-2006 | 04:26 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Deer rifle for small shooter
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No I wasnt talking about low recoil rounds in the .243. People will say a .243 is minimal round for deer or inadequate, but then in the same breath suggest 30-06 low recoil rounds. pffffffft! Managed recoil rounds cant even compare to what the .243 gives. Low recoil rounds dont have the B.C nor S.D of the .243. coupled with low velocity and a rapid expanding bullet now youve barely got an adequate combination.
The .243 is the way to go.
No I wasnt talking about low recoil rounds in the .243. People will say a .243 is minimal round for deer or inadequate, but then in the same breath suggest 30-06 low recoil rounds. pffffffft! Managed recoil rounds cant even compare to what the .243 gives. Low recoil rounds dont have the B.C nor S.D of the .243. coupled with low velocity and a rapid expanding bullet now youve barely got an adequate combination.
The .243 is the way to go.