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stubblejumper 10-20-2006 12:43 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 

And stubble my opinion of you is the one I acquired back whenI refered to this website for information, a person who has a lot to say about nothing,
Your attitude has certainlychanged from the newcommer that wanted a friend andwas constantlysending me pmsto come see what he wrote or to come help him out in an argument with someone because he had gotten himself in over his head.Then when I told you that unless you changed your attitude,and became more open mindedyou were going to earn a bad reputation on these forums,you react with the quote above.Well that is a good thing because it saves me from having to tell you to go away and quit being a pest.

Magnum_Man 10-20-2006 12:50 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 

ORIGINAL: stubblejumper


And stubble my opinion of you is the one I acquired back whenI refered to this website for information, a person who has a lot to say about nothing,
Your attitude has certainlychanged from the newcommer that wanted a friend andwas constantlysending me pmsto come see what he wrote or to come help him out in an argument with someone because he had gotten himself in over his head.The day when I told you that unless you changed your attitude,and became more open mindedyou were going to earn a bad reputation on these forums,you react with the quote above.Well that is a good thing because it saves me from having to tell you to go away and quit being a pest.
LOL this is too funny, you actually take this stuff seriously, all you "experienced" people do is act like the fools you are by talking tough, because thats all you are TALK. StubbleI would love to see the day when you prove anything you've said to be true, in fact buy me a plane ticket and I'll pay you a visit, then you can show me how much of an "expert" you really are, this goes for the rest of you self centered jerks as well, I bet none of you can back up anything you have stated here or anywhere else, as the stuff you have said can easily be looked up on the computer and passed as common knowledge on this forum. So stubble, until I get my plane ticket, just cut the crap.

Jeff Ovington 10-20-2006 07:33 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 

ORIGINAL: Roskoe

I just came back in from the shop. Interesting exchange here in the past six hours. Brutal Attack . . . . where did you come up with such a handle? Let me constructively suggest you change that name to "A Little Thin on Experience". There are a bunch of folks on this board with a lot of depth of experience. Folks like Stubblejumper, Big Country, James B, Drilling Man, Rebel Hog . . . many more. You can't jump in here and start making statements like "the 7mm-08 is an ineffective elk round" or "experience doesn't account for much"without taking shots across the bow. Ask constructive questions . . . try to learn from the many who are more than willing to share their knowledge - which was derived from personal experience. . . . . Things will go better. :)
I agree ......
I never thought much of the 7mm-08 as an elk cal. either until my brother shot his first with it...One shot behind the front shoulder did the trick.....
I don't know the live weight of the animal but when we took the bull to the butcher the 4 skinned quarters weighed at 500lbs even......
Since then he has shot two other bulls..All big 6x6 royals.The farthest any of these two bulls ran was 100yrds......Both expired befor we arrived to the prey........
I'vewitnessed elk,deer moose that had to be shot two or three times with cal. 30-06 cals and various magums and run just as far if not farther...I've also seen these cals dump them in there tracks (so to speak)
But as with any hunting situation Shot placement is critical but this calhas more than enough energy to bring an elk down...

DM 10-20-2006 08:07 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 

I never changed "my answers". I didn't answer anything, I simply regurgitated basic information that anyone can get if they weren't lazy, ignorant or both.
Looks to me like Stubblejumper took the time to to point out your "answer changes", in his below answer....


The 308win went from having no recoil at all to having the same or less than the 7mm-08 to having only slightly more that was easy to handle.:D:D

The 308 went from shooting as flat as the 7mm-08 to almost as flat,to the difference didn't matter.:D:D

For supposedly being a scientist,you have no clue as to ballistics or sectional densities,or the effects of barrel length or chamber dimensionson velocity.For a scientist your knowledge is pathetic.:D:D:D

Because of your lack of ballistics knowledge it isn't even possible to have a discussion of ballistics with you.:D:D:D
"If" you can't seethat for yourself, maybe a course of "hooked on phonics" would help you out??

DM

Carpmaster 10-20-2006 08:14 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 
We should rename this forum "Fight about Guns"!

Why anyone would degrade the 7-08 I don't know!? Any modern "Big Game rifle" with the right bullet is perfectly capable of cleanly killing an Elk. Roy Weatherby's favorite elk gun was the 257 WBY, I suppose he is a retard for using a gun with that small of a bore? This argument is as dumb as arguing whether the 300 Win is better than a 300 WSM! Give me any 7-08 with a 140 partition and put an elk within 150 yds and he is dead!

As far as the guys Jeff mentioned, they are a wealt of knowlede and all have offered very good info, they shouldnt be ripped on, this forum wouldnt be what it is woithout them!

BareBack Jack 10-20-2006 08:37 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 
To all I wasn't degrading the 7mm-08,I DON"T Like it.The same is true for the 308 win.It's my choice and my opinon.I have shot enough deer with both to form my own opinons on the calibers.
I do like the longer cousins to both the 280 rem and the 30-06.

To me in the rifles I had the 308 kicked more but I was shooting a 180 gr bullets where the 7mm-08 was shooting 140 gr.

The only person that I know of on this board that has killed a elk with a 7mm-08 is Buckshot and he has the pictures to prove it.None of this my brothers,cousins-aunt 3rd removed nephew BS.
If any other of you 7mm-08 elk slayers out there wanna argue thenpost your picks or quit yapping about the 7mm-08 as a elk round.
Thanks and have a GOOOOOOOOOOOODDDD Day;)
BBJ

Carpmaster 10-20-2006 08:40 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 
Oh there are better rounds for sure!! I would really rather have a 338 RUM or something of that nature, but I dont see why it wouldn't work!

Pygmy 10-20-2006 08:58 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 
Hehehehe...Now and then a thread like this sort of takes off andgenerates a life of its own...

I've been frequenting hunting forums for at least eight years now, and I've gleaned a wealth of good information from them ( plus lots of BS) but one of the main reasons I read and post on them is for the ENTERTAINMENT value...

This one has been FUN...:D....

ShatoDavis 10-20-2006 09:18 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 
Well folks,

I'm just about done with this forum. It was good while it lasted. This used to be a fun and peacefull place to come to. It was a nice diversion from work for a few years. We used to have fun and light hearted discussions/arguments once in a while, but for the most part it was a good exchange of ideas and opinions about a sport we all loved. Now, its all about mudslinging and name calling and "I'm smarter than you". I'm sick of it. So heres what may very well be my parting shot:


Brutal I've tried asking you to tone down your rhetoric to no avail. You are just too arrogant and conceded. You think that because you have a BS and work for the Game and Fish that you are the greatest, smartest swinging d**k in the woods. You'll grow up some day. You think because you go to the range twice a week, and you shoot elk in culling operations that everyone should listen only to you. Well, I'm sick of your attitude. Futhermore, if you are the typical employee of the F&G then my opinion of them is greatly diminished. I think you are suffering from a tremendous case of "Barney Fife" syndrome. And yes this is a personal attack and I fully acknowledge the fact that I've regressed to name calling.

OBTW, I have degrees. One of which happens to be a BS in animal science. Does that make me a "trained Scientist?" I also shoot often, many times surpassing your twice a week standard. Does that make me more of a firearms expert?

I also build custom rifles as a hobby. We consistantly produce sub 1/2 Moa hunting weapons from our garage. Am I suddenly a better gunsmith than Ed Brown? Do I have more knowledge than Gunsmiths who do it for a living day in and day out? I think not.


I'm also a liscensed Scuba Diving Instructor Trainer (that means I teach Instructors I've hunted Big game all over the North American continent. I run a multi million dollar corporation. Does any of this make my opinions more valuable than the next guy? Hell No! Does it give me the right to Discount everyone elses opinions? NO! I wouldn't be as successful as I am if I was that self absorbed and arrogant.



Todd1700 10-20-2006 11:42 AM

RE: Quit talking about the 7mm-08
 

LOL this is too funny, you actually take this stuff seriously, all you "experienced" people do is act like the fools you are by talking tough, because thats all you are TALK.
How old are you? 12? That's how old you sound. If you are actually older then that's really sad.


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