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hldeerhunter 10-12-2006 11:07 AM

Buying a new deer rifle...help
 
Thinking about buying a Remington model 700 in 30-06. I am hunting mostly in northern Michigan where my farthest shot is 100-150 yards...however I do go some places where I can reach out to 300+ yards. In addition I want to go to Canada one day and get me a big un. I was thinking about using 165 grains and limiting my shot to 200yards. What do you all think, enough gun?

Red Lion 10-12-2006 11:11 AM

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When you say big un, big un what? The .30-06 should be fine for your purposes, short of maybe moose or grizzly bear, or at least not optimum for those two.

just curious 10-12-2006 11:12 AM

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sounds about right to me...but what do i know??? i'm just a dumb girl

hldeerhunter 10-12-2006 11:14 AM

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Big un Deer is what I meant.

hldeerhunter 10-12-2006 11:15 AM

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I have known many women to be better hunters than me...thanks for the advice.

ipscshooter 10-12-2006 11:17 AM

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That's a good choice, and no reason to limit yourself to only 200 yards based on that caliber/bullet choice. If you're limiting yourself to 200 because of YOUR skill level, that's fine. But, a .30-06, using 165's, on whitetails, is good to go well beyond 300 yards if youhave the ability tomake the hit...

hldeerhunter 10-12-2006 11:25 AM

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Since I usually don't get very long shots I do not have the practice at 200 yrds. This is a self imposed limit due to the lack of practice at that distance. Though, I did take one 200 yard shot and dropped the deer in it's tracks.

younggun308 10-12-2006 11:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: just curious

...but what do i know??? i'm just a dumb girl
What's that all about? You're not a "dumb girl" you're just curious(LOL)!:D

just curious 10-12-2006 12:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: younggun243


ORIGINAL: just curious

...but what do i know??? i'm just a dumb girl
What's that all about? You're not a "dumb girl" you're just curious(LOL)!:D

it was just a joke....and i am very curious.

swamp rooster 10-12-2006 12:20 PM

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plenty of gun sounds good..

hldeerhunter 10-12-2006 12:23 PM

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Very curious or very very curious?

James B 10-12-2006 12:46 PM

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You can't go wrong with a 30-06. If its just for all the deer family however, I would get a 270 or 7MM-08. Just as good for all deer and less lecoil and more enjoyable to shoot. IMO.

Mr. Longbeard 10-12-2006 05:53 PM

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:D

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MinnFinn 10-12-2006 07:54 PM

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If you planning to hunt deer primarily in less than 200 yard range .30-06 is very adequate. If you think you might be hunting bigger game (e.g. Elk) out to 300 yards, I'd consider .300 WM. Tikka T3 are in both calibers and others, check it out before you decide on Rem 700.

just curious 10-13-2006 05:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: hldeerhunter

Very curious or very very curious?
VERY VERY curious.

younggun308 10-13-2006 07:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: Magnum_Man_300

No that isn't enough gun, a 338 Win Mag is about right for Michigan.
Magnum Man, what is it with you and ginourmous calibers?
On another thread, you said that a kid should get a 375 H&H for his first deer rifle!
The one post thatI regret was lost was one posted by a guy that said :"....243 first gun for kids overrrated? You guys need to get off the crack!You guys say that we should get our kids something that will kill the deer, even if they have poor shot placement!
I know! let's get the 12-year-old a .416 Weatherby, so that he can kill the deer when he hits it in the butt, and then he'll be able to flinch for the rest of his life!"

I think that says it all. .338 is a safari gun, not a deer rifle, though it would work, but it would be a waste. The biggest I would get just for deer would be a .270, a 308, or a 30-30.
Deer don't need anything bigger than that. Magnum Man, next time you go out in the woods with your .300 RUM, let me know.:D

By the way, no hard feelings.

ipscshooter 10-13-2006 07:44 AM

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:D:D:DThat was me...

hartshot101 10-13-2006 11:36 AM

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sounds like a deadly combo to me i personally use 180 grn cor lokts in my 700 30-06, its what i feel comfortable shooting with and i no it can get the job done for my set ranges. the longest shot ive taken with my 30-06 was a 200 yd shot up hill on a buck took him down like a sack of potatoes. Like i said go with what you feel comfortable about.

heeze gutshot shortee 10-13-2006 04:04 PM

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hdldeerhunter...300 win mag.... no worries mate

heeze gutshot shortee 10-13-2006 04:06 PM

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younggun243.......ouch...get at em feller

Garminator 10-16-2006 02:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: younggun243


ORIGINAL: Magnum_Man_300

No that isn't enough gun, a 338 Win Mag is about right for Michigan.
Magnum Man, what is it with you and ginourmous calibers?
On another thread, you said that a kid should get a 375 H&H for his first deer rifle!
The one post thatI regret was lost was one posted by a guy that said :"....243 first gun for kids overrrated? You guys need to get off the crack!You guys say that we should get our kids something that will kill the deer, even if they have poor shot placement!
I know! let's get the 12-year-old a .416 Weatherby, so that he can kill the deer when he hits it in the butt, and then he'll be able to flinch for the rest of his life!"

I think that says it all. .338 is a safari gun, not a deer rifle, though it would work, but it would be a waste. The biggest I would get just for deer would be a .270, a 308, or a 30-30.
Deer don't need anything bigger than that. Magnum Man, next time you go out in the woods with your .300 RUM, let me know.:D

By the way, no hard feelings.
He obviously doesn't harvest any meat!!!..when all is said and done he probably salvages a couple pounds of ground venison:D

hldeerhunter 10-16-2006 06:56 PM

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I appreciate all the info. A .338 is too much gun for my taste. A friend of mine has one and it nearly blows the deer in half. It left a hole the size of a soft ball on a deer shot at 50yrds away. I think the 30-06 with 165 or 180 grains should work great. Thanks all

[email protected] 10-16-2006 08:01 PM

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Shoot the most gun you can handle! If the 30-06 is it no problem it'll kill any thing on this continent, including the critters in zoos. A little dose of flinch can really mess things up at 200-300 yds. I have a 338 win mag and a 45-70 which when loaded hot makes the 338 seem mild on the butt end. They both are very accurate, but I'd rather shoot something else when that power level isn't needed.

[email protected] 10-16-2006 08:06 PM

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just curious, don't joke about being dumb. Any woman that likes the outdoors, hunting , shooting and fishing is way ahead of the pack. Any man who is lucky enough to find such a woman is the envy of his peers!

eldeguello 10-17-2006 10:10 AM

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The .30/'06 has handily killed all North American game, and most African species as well. Although I would not choose it for elephant,rhino or Cape Buffalo, when jack O'Connor's wife Eleanor went for her elephant, she killed it with one 220-grain solid bullet from her "big-game" rifle, which was a .30/'06. Her "nondangerous game" rifle was a 7X57mm Mauser....

Don't let anyone tell you that the old '06 isn't poweful enough for moose-it is! As a matter of fact, the person who killed the most moose I ever knew personally was an old Canadian from Ontario. Heshot them all with a slide-action Remington rifle chambered for .30 REM, the ballistic twin of the .30/30 Win. He generally shot themat less than 100 yards, one shot each through the lungs. Then he'd sit down, light his pipe, and wait for about 45 minutes before following their trail and butchering his moose......

just curious 10-17-2006 11:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: [email protected]

just curious, don't joke about being dumb. Any woman that likes the outdoors, hunting , shooting and fishing is way ahead of the pack. Any man who is lucky enough to find such a woman is the envy of his peers!
yeah, i'm not worried about anyone thinking i'm dumb. i was kidding. if you knew me you would know i'm definitely not dumb. but i like to test the waters and see what happens....remember....just curious.

smokeman 10-17-2006 04:48 PM

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Did not a cat that was curious get killed???And some says the cat got its satisfaction though..Now that cat cant get curious no more..Wonder what ever happened to curious george?? I bet he went to see how curiousity the cat died and found out allso......

hldeerhunter 10-18-2006 01:09 PM

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so, how is everyone's hunting success thus far this year?

pahntr760 10-18-2006 01:32 PM

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I shoot a 7mm Rem Mag and I think it to be just about right for any and all game I come across. Load a heavier bullet and load it back a scotch and it’s a wonderful shorter range, east coast kind of rifle. Put a lighter bullet with a higher charge and you have a wonderful longer range elk/deer gun. Plus I have seen Moose and big bear kills with one loaded right. I also have a .308 in the 760. Wonderful brush gun, but the two piece stock makes the longer shots a bit harder. My Remington 700 with the 7mm Rem Mag holds sub MOA out to 300 yds. (That’s all the farther I have tried) Plus the synthetic stock and factory butt pad make the 7 mag kick considerably less then my .308. It was refreshing the first time I cracked one out of that gun. With all that said, I have nothing to say bad on the trusty ole '06. I just prefer the more versatile 7 Mag. That’s my $.02.

moosehunter21 10-18-2006 03:38 PM

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Go with 180 grains. in 30-06.

[email protected] 10-18-2006 06:44 PM

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My season doesn't start until mid November, but it last till the end of Janurary, with a two deer a day limit. So with a little luck my freezer will be full. For those of us who reload versitility isn't hard to come by, but for those who don't the 30-06 is the winner everytime:)


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