Caliber for son's first deer rifle?
#91
RE: Caliber for son's first deer rifle?
With the new reduced recoil ammo my son shoots a Rem 76030-06. He's 12 and weighs a hundred pounds soaking wet. If you get him something like an 30-06 or a 270 he can use it his whole life without switching guns. I cut 2 in off the stock on my 760 so my son can shoot it. I put a slip on recoild pad when I want to shoot the gun. When he gets older I'll buy a new stock for $80 and he'll be set.
#92
RE: Caliber for son's first deer rifle?
ORIGINAL: pintailhomes
All I'm saying is dont buy a .243 for a beginner rifle, just buy a .243 for what it is...a great standard caliber.
All I'm saying is dont buy a .243 for a beginner rifle, just buy a .243 for what it is...a great standard caliber.
#93
RE: Caliber for son's first deer rifle?
ORIGINAL: younggun243
You consistently make no sense pintailhomes, he's getting his son the .243 as a beginner rifle because for now his son can't stand more recoil than that. In the future, he can get a 30-06, but not now.
ORIGINAL: pintailhomes
All I'm saying is dont buy a .243 for a beginner rifle, just buy a .243 for what it is...a great standard caliber.
All I'm saying is dont buy a .243 for a beginner rifle, just buy a .243 for what it is...a great standard caliber.
I'm still waiting on your expert analysis of using rifled slugs through a rifled barrel and how that would "destroy a barrel" That statement discredited all of your opinions in my view. You made a statement and suggestion that you had no prior experience and passed it on as fact.[:'(]
#94
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SE Wisc
Posts: 677
RE: Caliber for son's first deer rifle?
I would suggest the 7mm-08. And for good reason. It's a great all around caliber that he can grow into and use forever. The 7mm-08 can be used for bigger game as well. This is something of disadvantage of the 243. 243 is a good deer gun but i wouldn't go for bigger game with it.
#95
RE: Caliber for son's first deer rifle?
ORIGINAL: pintailhomes
That statement discredited all of your opinions in my view.
That statement discredited all of your opinions in my view.
I could say that that statement discredited all of your opinions, but I don't. You ask why? Because I believe that maybe shotgun slugs wasn't your cup of tea, but I suppose you know stuff about other topics.
Don't suppose that one mistake totally discredits a member on HNI, lots of members say dumb things here.
It seems to me that you were telling the guy what mindset he should buy a .243with. Basicly what you'resaying is this: "Don't get the .243 thinking it's a kid gun, get it because it's an adult caliber!"
He's looking for a recoil-light rifle, and beginners need light recoil rifles. If he wanted an adult gun for his son, then he could've gotten a .30-06, but that kicks too much. He's not looking for an adult gun, he's looking for a beginner's gun.
#97
RE: Caliber for son's first deer rifle?
Only trouble with that is that 22-250 isn't legal everywhere. Usually, you must have a 24 or higher caliber. In Tennessee, you can hunt a deer with any center-fire cartridge. I think that's stupid, you can"shoot" deer with a .204 Ruger!
#98
RE: Caliber for son's first deer rifle?
If any centerfire cartridge is availible to use down to a .204, and you are comfortable hunting with it, use it. Reports to our local and surrounding sheriff departments and throuugh the DNR an estimate of 9 out of 10 deer killed by poaching are taken by rimfire cartridges .17 or .22. Obviously they draw less attention being subsonic and are still fast and deadly.
Of course I come from a state with the highest number of B&C entries in the US, and we are only allowed to use slug guns.
Of course I come from a state with the highest number of B&C entries in the US, and we are only allowed to use slug guns.
#99
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Seminole Nation - Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 1
My grandson is 12, 5'1" and 115 lbs. Shot his first 2 deer with his Dad's 270. I can't recommend this approach as we are having a difficult time getting him to practice with the 270 due to the "Kick". (Son-In-Laws, can't live with them and can't Shoot Em')
IMHO - It still comes down to bullet placement and a competent load that can do the Job. Plenty of deer have been killed with a .243 and 6mm however, I still consider them an "Expert's" cartridge as bullet placement is even more important.
If you want an undersized individual to develop shooting skills then you should choose a cartridge/rifle combo that won't punish them each time they shoot. I prefer the 7mm-08 as a moderate recoil cartridge and I can attest that it will and can do the job on Deer sized Game.
Personally, I'm a 30-06 Fanatic and will always be (My son-in-law says that is because the cartridge came out the same year I Was Born!) That's an embellishment - and he's real good at that part.
(I'd whip him if I Could!)
Safe Hunting to All
IMHO - It still comes down to bullet placement and a competent load that can do the Job. Plenty of deer have been killed with a .243 and 6mm however, I still consider them an "Expert's" cartridge as bullet placement is even more important.
If you want an undersized individual to develop shooting skills then you should choose a cartridge/rifle combo that won't punish them each time they shoot. I prefer the 7mm-08 as a moderate recoil cartridge and I can attest that it will and can do the job on Deer sized Game.
Personally, I'm a 30-06 Fanatic and will always be (My son-in-law says that is because the cartridge came out the same year I Was Born!) That's an embellishment - and he's real good at that part.
(I'd whip him if I Could!)
Safe Hunting to All