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Old 09-01-2006 | 11:03 AM
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I want to purchase a new rifle in .270win caliber. Accuracy is really important to me. It has to be wood stock with blued barrel. NO sights on the gun, I'll be putting a scope on it immediately.
So far, I've been looking at the:

winchester model 70 hunter 3
one of the savage classic models
browning a-bolt
remington 700 bdl/cdl
tika t3 hunter.

I'm a bit of a fan of the raised cheekpiece and price isn't really a factor being that I'll probably have this rifle for the rest of my life.
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Old 09-01-2006 | 01:06 PM
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I looked at several deer rifles this week....If I bought a new one I'd go with a 7mm-08 in the Remington CDL....It balances beautifully....

A .270 is a great caliber (one of my brothers has two)...My other brother has a 7mm-08 and a .280...not a bit of difference in their effectiveness on deer...

With the shorter cartridges there is more weight between your hands and the gun just feels better...To me...
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Old 09-01-2006 | 01:11 PM
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IMO, Savage or Tikka. Great shooting guns to be sure.
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Old 09-01-2006 | 02:53 PM
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I am a big fan of the Browning A-Bolt. My 270 is a real tack driver.

Now if accuracy were my primary drive, I would be looking at something with a composite stock. While they may not look as nice as a nice wooden stock, they are unaffected by temperatuer or humidity (not so with a wood stock) which will alter your accuracy.

Another big plus would be the BOSS system that Browning has. It will allow you to literally "tune" your gun to a specific load. Not that you couldn't to it the other way around with hand loading, but it allow you to shoot a wider varietey of ammunition well. That being said, I would go for the BOSS CR version as opposed to the muzzle brake version. The noise to the shooter is significantly less with the CR.
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Old 09-01-2006 | 04:24 PM
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Another big plus would be the BOSS system that Browning has.
As the former owner of a BOSS equipped rifle,I could not disagree more.My own BOSS came loose regularly which changed the point of impact.The BOSS equipped rifles also come with shorter barrels to compensate for the length of the BOSS,the result being that they produce less velocity than a non-BOSS equipped rifle.Lastly,the BOSS equipped rifle was not my most accurate rifle despite much time and ammunition spent tuning it.I will never own another BOSS equipped rifle.
If accuracy is important,the only rifle mentioned that comes with an accuracy guarantee is the tikka.And as another posterstated previously,a synthetic stock will produce a more consistant point of impact.
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Old 09-01-2006 | 05:17 PM
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I know people personally that own a browning with the boss system and it works flawlessly. Actually one of them owns two, his wife has one as well.

Barrel length should not make that big of a difference unless it is really short.

Maybe you just had a lemon? Did you ever contact browning about your issues with accuracy or the weight coming loose all the time?

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Old 09-01-2006 | 05:53 PM
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Did you ever contact browning about your issues with accuracy or the weight coming loose all the time?
I did not say that the rifle was not accurate,rather that it was not my most accurate rifle.In other words,I have other non-boss equipped rifles that are more accurate.I find that the same level of accuracy can be achieved just by finding a load that a rifle likes.As for the boss continually loosening,it appears to be common with people that use their rifles under more demanding conditions such as horseback hunting.Many peopleresort to using loctite.As for tuning the BOSS,I am usually able to develop a handload in as many rounds as it took to find the most accurate setting.As for velocity,I don't see the sense in giving up velocity for nothing in return,as like I said,I was able to achieve just as much accuracy by finding the proper load for a given rifle.


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Old 09-01-2006 | 08:23 PM
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I would buy the new Remington 700 SPS. It will have a Synthetic stock and a 24 inch barrel. I would be very suprised if it did shoot well under an inch from the box. All mine have.
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Old 09-01-2006 | 08:43 PM
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i want something with a wood stock, but thanks for your help
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Old 09-01-2006 | 09:24 PM
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You will be more accurate with a non-wood stock in most guns. Though not much, every time humidity or temp changes stock shifts/warps to some minor degree. God forbid you are a true hunter and you spend 8 hours in the rain and then carry your gun in a nice climate controlled house to dry out.

Yes yes yes I know 400 people will reply and tell me how they have a wood gun that shoots 1" groups at 800yards while snowing in 95 deg weather, but consistency is the name of the game and wood warps. With lots of work or luck wood can be as accurate as anything, but your average off-the-shelfer will not like weather changes or water. Yes millions of guns are wood and work perfectly for what is expected from them but you said you wanted accurate.

To the earlier thread about the BOSS system, nah! With recoil comp too loud. Too much junk on end of barrel, clunkie. And as an added bonus the last one I saw we cut the boss off and the barrel recrowned shot just about as good as it did with the BOSS.
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