Accuracy .300 WSM Remington XCR
 

I just purchased a Remington 700 XCR Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation edition in .300 WSM and put a Nikon Buckmasters 3 x 9 on it. I need some help/input!!

...long story short, I cannot get it to shoot well! I have put 44 shells through it. I have it in a sight vise, and after the first box of 20 shellsI even got a hydraulic trigger release, then came back and shot the other box on a different day (new Federal Fusions) and a few Federal Premiums,first box 165 and second batch180 grain. I know that the scope/gun is being held dead on when firing (anchored & strapped into vise, and now with hydraulic release). I allow the barrel to cool between shots. I can manage to get 2 shots within 1 to1 1/2 inches... I think it's going good... then it will throw the nextshot off several inches (at 100 yards). The scope is securely anchored down as well (all screws & mounts). I did check the "float" of the barrel by sliding an index card b/t barrel & stock, and it will slide between. I was using bungee cords to anchor the gun tightly at two points: (1) downover the barrel at the forearm area, and (2) also at the rear stock where the "cheekpiece rise" is, and I don't know if that would affect it(??). Thanks in advance for the input!

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Very good advice.Two different loads is also not a great test of a rifles accuracy.I would try another and possibly some 165gr loads.

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The vise is not because of kick --- it is not "weighted" or bolted to the table so it does not control the recoil. Regardless, the recoil of this rifle is very manageable. I am using the vise "setup" as a stabilizing device, as sandbags would be.

May I ask why you regard vises and trigger releases as gimmicks? Why do sandbags have an advantage over them? Is there something in your opinion/expertise with my current vise setup that may be altering my shots (bungees place "stress" on rifle, maybe)?

As I stated in my original post, the scope is secured properly, and all else on the rifle is as well. I am just puzzled because I cannot get consistency.

Thanks again for the input!

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I never say much for certainty in life because you never know when you will be wrong and look stupid, but no bungees. And no tight vise. Hold your gun secure, but let it breath so to speak. Anchor at the butt of the gun as lightly as possible, DO NOT torque the forend, and let nothing touch the barrel. See if that helps.

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It should also bementioned that gun vices can effect the point of impact and therefore should not be used to sight in a rifle.

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Why affect point of impact?

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When you mounted the scope did you lap the rings? I have seen problems like this caused by scope ring misaligments. Also did you check the torque of the action screws? I like 45inch lbs on front and back less.

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Because it prevents the gun from recoiling naturally which can have an effect on point of impact.Preventing the gun from recoiling naturally can also result in stock damage with rifles that produce a lot of recoil.Stocks have cracked while being used in a gun vice.

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Thanks to all for the replies & input. I ordered some traditional shooting bags this evening. I only wish I had the money back for the shells I've already bought & the sighting-in "junk" I got. It ain't cheap!

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I can get 1”-1.5” groups from my Remington XCR in 375H&H, it is just a matter of finding the right load and doing your bit.
I use a Kahles 2-7X36 scope and I have settled on a load of 67gr of AR2208 powder behind a 220gr Taipan FP pill for pigs donkey and horses and a load of 82gr of AR2209 behind a 270gr Woodleigh PP for Scrub Bulls and Buffalo.




I recommend that you do what I do and go hunting small game like Rabbits etc with it so that you get used to shooting it, after you fire a hundred or so rounds at game with it you will be much more comfortable with it.

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Even in a vise, it should do better than that. I think maybe you should practice alot on sandbags. Pratice practice, practice...if you cant get it at aleast a moa at 100yds with 5 shots, after awhile, then id say you have rifle issues.

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The sand bags might do the trick for you, hope they do. My earlier notes about how to set up a vice should work, I know because we have been sighting in rifles for 10 + years as a service of our gun shop, 99% done from a vise.

Shooting from a vice is not perfect I will be the first to admit, but it has many advantages. Like shooting freehand, prone, kneeling etc there is a learning curve of how to do it best.

No substitute for putting that gun on your shoulder and feeling comfortable when you pull the trigger from any position. Sandbags and vices are just devices to help you in the journey.

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TELL me about your barrel break-in procedure..I've found over the years and seeing hundreds of factory guns trying to beach-rest shooters that the problems were caused from even before they fired the first shot, escpecially with anything that says "MAGNUM"..so, what did you do for the first twenty shots......

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True, could be copper fouling badly. Seen it many times. I had a custom 300RUM built and was a great shooter, in fact, awesome shooter. But after 600 or so rounds, I started getting heat cracks in the neck and it fouled badly. I juststarted having fun with it long range shooting, just found a few good loads. So for it to shoot, you had to shoot a fouling shot, and then it would shoot good for 4-5 rounds, and started fouling bad. Start getting flyers. Got worse until you removed the copper and started over again.

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I agree with stubblejumper and 260 rem you need to find the right load for you rifle. In the June/July edition of Outdoor life there is a section called the short mag riddle and the author had a 300 wsm in a model 70 that he couldonly get groups of 2.5" and larger from his gun and stated theOL gun tests had the same results with other 300 WSM they tested. The factory rifles didn't seem to do well withfactory ammo. However, he did go on to say that the the new Winchester XP3 brought hisshots back to 1.5" groups. I personally have nottried them, but itjust maybe as simple as finding the right bullet for your rifle. Good luck!

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Try putting ashim betweenthe barrel and the end of the forend. Remingtons should have a pressure point. If the shim helps then make it permanate. I have fixed several Remingtons that way. I usually use a match book cover. If that clears up the problem I just put a good sealer on the carboard and leave it in there. This might sound to simple but give it a try.