.45-70
08-17-2006, 07:21 PM
#3
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RE: .45-70
ORIGINAL: fishhawkone
How is the recoil of a .45-70 compare to that of a 12 gauge slug? Would it be too much for deer?
How is the recoil of a .45-70 compare to that of a 12 gauge slug? Would it be too much for deer?
08-17-2006, 08:16 PM
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Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wall SD USA & Jamestown ND
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RE: .45-70
BC hit it right on. It all depends on the loads. It can be a ***** cat or a real stem winder.
. Factory loads are not bad at all and are plenty for deer. For bear I like the 350 Grain Hornady round nose at 1900 fps and up. At any velocty over 1600 fps that bullet will go from one end of a black bear to the other. Of course the faster you drive it, the better the trajectory. However penetration will drop off some. Great old caliber Try one, you will love it.
. Factory loads are not bad at all and are plenty for deer. For bear I like the 350 Grain Hornady round nose at 1900 fps and up. At any velocty over 1600 fps that bullet will go from one end of a black bear to the other. Of course the faster you drive it, the better the trajectory. However penetration will drop off some. Great old caliber Try one, you will love it.
08-17-2006, 08:22 PM
#5
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 383
RE: .45-70
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
If you compare a std. remington, federal, winchester 45-70 load to a 2.75" 12ga 1oz load, there is no comparison. The 12ga kicks much harder. If you compare my 405gr 1950fps 45-70 reloads, now you talking. Or my 350gr 2100fps loads, they tap ya pretty good. But its a different recoil in my opinion. Slugguns usually use a fast burning powder and its sharper where my IMR3031 loads are more of a push.
If you compare a std. remington, federal, winchester 45-70 load to a 2.75" 12ga 1oz load, there is no comparison. The 12ga kicks much harder. If you compare my 405gr 1950fps 45-70 reloads, now you talking. Or my 350gr 2100fps loads, they tap ya pretty good. But its a different recoil in my opinion. Slugguns usually use a fast burning powder and its sharper where my IMR3031 loads are more of a push.
08-17-2006, 08:46 PM
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RE: .45-70
ORIGINAL: FastShootingCarts
Just curious, how many grains of 3031 are you using?
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
If you compare a std. remington, federal, winchester 45-70 load to a 2.75" 12ga 1oz load, there is no comparison. The 12ga kicks much harder. If you compare my 405gr 1950fps 45-70 reloads, now you talking. Or my 350gr 2100fps loads, they tap ya pretty good. But its a different recoil in my opinion. Slugguns usually use a fast burning powder and its sharper where my IMR3031 loads are more of a push.
If you compare a std. remington, federal, winchester 45-70 load to a 2.75" 12ga 1oz load, there is no comparison. The 12ga kicks much harder. If you compare my 405gr 1950fps 45-70 reloads, now you talking. Or my 350gr 2100fps loads, they tap ya pretty good. But its a different recoil in my opinion. Slugguns usually use a fast burning powder and its sharper where my IMR3031 loads are more of a push.
08-18-2006, 09:04 AM
#9
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
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RE: .45-70
My Marlin likes the loading of 51 gr of H4198 behind the Speer 300 gr HP (#8900). I haven't yet used this load for deer because the areas I hunt I can get shots farther than I care to guesstimate the trajectory of the old .45-70 and usually take my .270 or 7mm-08. This load however has accounted for 3 black bear - one shot each and it really cleaned house. It should work fine for deer also and the recoil is less than a 12 ga 2 3/4" slug.
08-18-2006, 09:20 AM
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RE: .45-70
ORIGINAL: bronko22000
My Marlin likes the loading of 51 gr of H4198 behind the Speer 300 gr HP (#8900). I haven't yet used this load for deer because the areas I hunt I can get shots farther than I care to guesstimate the trajectory of the old .45-70 and usually take my .270 or 7mm-08. This load however has accounted for 3 black bear - one shot each and it really cleaned house. It should work fine for deer also and the recoil is less than a 12 ga 2 3/4" slug.
My Marlin likes the loading of 51 gr of H4198 behind the Speer 300 gr HP (#8900). I haven't yet used this load for deer because the areas I hunt I can get shots farther than I care to guesstimate the trajectory of the old .45-70 and usually take my .270 or 7mm-08. This load however has accounted for 3 black bear - one shot each and it really cleaned house. It should work fine for deer also and the recoil is less than a 12 ga 2 3/4" slug.