Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

I've got a Rem 700 Mtn LSS in 7mm-08 that is a consistent sub-moa shooter; however, I am keenly interested in getting a 7600 in the same caliber. I've been a pump shotgun shooter all my life and think that a 7600 in 7mm-08 with quick follow-up shot capability would be an ideal whitetail slayer.

With that said, I'm not willing to sacrifice the accuracy I've become accustomed to for that quick follow-up shot capability! I would consider MOA accuracy a requirement for a scoped rifle and I would definitely put a scope on it. I know the 7600 has a freefloated barrel and theoritically should be quite accurate; however, I've seen 7600 accuracy reports ranging from sub-moa to 2"+.

I'd like to hear from those with first hand experences as far as 7600 accuracy is concerned. (Especially 7600 in 7mm-08) I'd also like to hear any other comments you may have related to your actual experiences with the Rem 7600....dependability, balance, fit & finish, trigger, overall shootability, etc, etc.

For any and all pump rifle shooters......why the pump?

Thanks

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RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

Most 7600's are not submoa. But generally don't need to be.Lockup is just not as strong as a bolt.Some reasons people like em is quick follow up shots without having to worry about semi jams. Other reasons, could be states like PA doesn't allow semis, and they sell alot of 7600's.

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I had a pump in the 270 quite a few years back. I had no problems with accuracy with this rifle and found it handled very well. I made a mistake in trading this rifle for a bolt action and this was one of the biggest mistake I ever made with rifles. The 7600 in the 7 mm-08 would make for a great combo. Short action in a pump sounds sweet to me. Good luck...

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bigcountry

I plan to keep my LSS and this rifle would primarilly be used for woods hunting. With that said, I agree that sub-moa isn't generally needed; however, I wouldn't go there if all I could expect was 2" accuracy. I handload everything I shoot and haven't shot a box of factory fodder in I can't remember when. I'm hoping the 7600 will do a little better than average with handloads tuned to that specific gun.

trailer

A "short action in a pump sounds sweet to me as well", especially if I can get it in the same caliber as my current rifle. However, that does bring up a good question. Does anyone know if the Rem 7600 in .308 or 7mm-08 really is a shorter action?


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Oh yea, you should expect1.5MOA or better with a 7600. I am just explainign don't expecteveryone you buy tobe a benchrest gun. It does what its made for.

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I use to hunt with the Rem. 760 Gamemaster in 30.06. I really liked the quick follow ups. I shot 150 gr. Rem. core lokts and got 1" to 1.5" groups out of it.

I now use a Rem 700 Mtn in 30.06.

RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

I have had four. All would shoot very close to one inch. One, a 270 would beat that by half. Most accurate from the box rifle that I ever owned. Expect the 7600 to shoot about as well as you can hold it.

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That’s a good question . I’m not sure if the action is shorter for the 308 compared to the 270. Might be like the Tikka, one action fits all. You might have to contact Remington and ask the question on there web site. They reply fairly quick...:eek:

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Thanks to everyone for all the input. Really appreciate it. Keep it comming!!!!

Trailer
I did as you suggested and posed the "short action" question to Remington via their website. I'll let everyone know the response when I hear back from them.

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I generally agree....however they're a bit more accurate than this suggests.....but have a poor trigger!!

Their best attribute is damn excellent reliability.....they just work very well and never ever jam......extremely strong.

I'm totally a bolt action fan but oned a pump years ago....it's one darn good rifle in almost any caliber they're made in.

35 Whelen to 6mm rem.........they work and work and work.

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I got one about 10 yrs ago or so because it was marked down at walmart:D(and i heard it was a pretty good rifle)- they had a Rem. semi auto& a pump that day marked down, i gotthe pump rifle in .270 win.

The stock is too fancy for me(glossy checkered walnut)- but i like it& it shoots good.

I have been elk hunting etc& ppl have givin it some real "odd" looks:D(not to many pump riflesaround here)- but the few who know me know i will outshoot them reguardless of how it looks;)even with there fancy/expensive /heavy barrels& imported etcbolt rifles.

(including the guy who came with his nice blazer rifle& zess

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So are you saying that you are such a great shot,or is it that all the people that know you are terrible shots?:D

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Naah Im Not such a great shot . It isi expect that i only know a very few people& there not very good:D.

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I emailed Remington and here is what they had to say

Subject
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Does the 7600 .308 have a true "short" action receiver? I know some
rifles, tikka, for example, does not have a true short action but rather a
one size fits all.


Discussion Thread
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Response (Jonsie) - 07/11/2006 02:19 PM
Dear Doug;

Thank you for visiting Remington Country! We certainly appreciate you
taking the time to write in with your question. Yes, the 7600 is an
actual short action, and yes, the action for the .308 is shorter than a
receiver for a .30-06 or .270 because these are long action calibers
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RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

So now we know. Thanks...:eek:

RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

I've never owned a 7600 before, but I did have a buddy who had one in 243. Well, now that I think of it, it may have been a 760.....

Either way, he always had me "sight in" the gun after he got done with it for a little added re-assurance. I can say that it shot very very tight groups. Never measured any but 3 shots were 1" or under everytime I shot it.

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I have a 760 in 30-06. At 100 yrds it groups 1 in no problem with factory rounds. Never jams, quick follow up shots which is great for hunting in states like PA. The pump shoots almost as fast as a semi automatic, the extra second it takes to pump allows you to get back on target for the next shot. I also used to own a 760 carbine which has the shorter 18 in barrel, also a great gun. My dad, both Uncles and all four cousins all use Remington 30-06 pumps, they are a family tradition. If you don't believe me check out Benoitbigbucks.com the legendary Benoit family swears by em.

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chr103yod

Is your 760 18" carbine also a 30-06? Have you chronographed these two guns? I was just wondering how much velocity you give up going with the 18" barrel instead of the 22" barrel.

I went to one of the local gunshops and handled an older model 7600 22" barrel and a new 7600 18" carbine. I must admit that I thought the carbine version handled, balanced and pointeda lot better than the rifle.

I'm kind of thinking that if I stick to my original plan to get one in 7mm-08 that I should get one with a 22" barrel. If I were to go with the 18" carbine, I should probably go 30-06. I just don't know about a 7mm-08 with an 18" barrel. Even the Rem model 7 has a 20" barrel.

What do you think?

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firstshot, i'm also considering the 7600 carbine, matte/synthetic. according to Remington's website the carbine has an 18.5 inch barrel and only comes chambered in the 30-06. i wish itcame chambered in 308 just because i like short actions, but i won't let that stop me from getting one. yes you will lose some velocity with the 18.5" compared to the 22", it may be a big deal to you but to me it's not a big deal because i don't plan on useing it as a long range rifle due to the fact that i hunt in the south where shots are typicaly close. although, IMHO if the rifle shoots well then there should be enough velocity to shoot out to300 yards or so.

RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

Very simple if that is your requirements don't buy one..If you want an accurate rifle with a quick followup shot buy a BAR

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Firstshot, I don't have the carbine anymore I had to sell it about 15 yrs ago due to a money crisis. It shot great. I never had it chronographed but unless your shooting 300-400 yrds I don't think it would make much difference. We never get long shots where I hunt maybe 200 at the most. At 100 yrds one inch groups were no problem. I would have bought another one but at the time I couldn't find one at any of the local gun shops. One thing I can tell you about the Remington pumps is do not buy one if you live in the desert. I used to live in New Mexico and I took my pump to the range one day when it was a little windy. I picked up so much sand in the action it almost wouldn't pump. I now live in PA and It's my gun of choice.

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Thanks again for everyone's input.

I've decided to go with a carbine in 30-06. I've already got the dies (used tohave a BAR 30-06)and the odd 6 will give me a a good bit more versalitiy where heavier bullets are concerned. I can use the 7mm-08 Mtn LSS for the fields and the 7600 pump for the woods and the 7mm-08 will be a good starter rifle for my son when he gets a little bigger.

I hope to be able to find a 7600 carbine with a laminated stock. May just get one with a tubbaware stock and replace it with a good Boyds laminated.

Done deal!! All I've got to do now is save my pennies!

Thanks again for all the insight and advise!

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You will not have to give up accuracy for quick follow up shots with the 7600. They will shoot right beside 90 percent of the bolt guns. Mine will outshoot the hell out of my brothers BAR in the same caliber. NOT EVEN close.

RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

does the forend/pump make much noise? if you bump the forend while you're hunting do you notice any noise? my only concern would be spooking game while hunting.

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CAM2

With the older 7600 I handled at the gun shop, you didn't have to bump the forend to make it rattle. It was very loose and would rattel just by moving the gun around.

The forend on the new 7600 carbine (30-06) I handled was very tight. Obviously, Remington has done someting with the new models to tighten up the forend. Yea, if you were to smack it, itmight make a bit of noise, but I don't see this as a problem while hunting as unless I'm looking through binoculars, I've got the gun in my hands at all times, especially when still hunting.

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RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

In hundreds of hours of hunting with the 7600's I have never had any problem spooking game with any rattling noise. Other than a less than perfect trigger, (which is not just a 7600 proble but most out of the box guns), it hard to find fault with these rifles. They do what they were designed to do very well.

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i've got a remington m760 in .308 , and a remington m7600 in .25-06 . and they're both very accurate and fast .

BTW- what is remington's e-mail address ??

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i handeled a synthetic .270 yesterday and it didn't seem to make much noise. i liked it, it seemed light and pretty smooth. if i get one i'm definetly getting the carbine for the short barrel, it seems like it will make a great close quarters woods rifle.
does the pump and action bars remove easily? the reason i'm looking at this rifle is because it seems like it would be easy to maintain.i wanta riflethat i can use in adverse weather and disassemble it easily to dry it and lube it.

RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

I've removed the front stock, and the trigger assembly to clean mine. I've never had to remove the action bars I don't think it's necessary to clean the gun. The whole trigger assembly removes by pushing out two pins and you can get to everything tuo need to clean. These are my all time favorite guns. Always fun to shoot and they handle like a shotgun so it's always easy to get on target for follow up shots.

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Sorry whelen36....I missed the email address question. I just used Remingtons "Ask a question" form on their website.

Here's a link to it: http://remington.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/remington.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=S37FNMdi&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3Nvcn RfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0zMTQmcF9wcm9k cz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**

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I have an old 760 carbine in .308. I haven't used it much and the scope and mount were out to lunch. I haven't fired it since I removed the optics. Maybe today is a good day to try it out with open sites and see what its like. I'm not expecting great accuracy out of an old carbine but really what do you need in the bush anyhow? The trigger on this one is much better than many box guns available these days, but then this thing is about a 1962 production.

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I live in the south where many people dog hunt. Most dog hunters want a repeater. So I have sold many, and have had wonderful success. I would expect 1.25 or better with the right ammo and scope.

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I have a 7600 in 35 whelen. I got it from my wife for Christmas but it is what I was intending on buying. I got it two pump 2 or 3 shots into a moose, elk, bear or deer in the bush within 150 yards or so (probably much less). So it does not need to be MOA for what I want it to do. I did shoot a few deer with it, one at a little over 200 yards.

I think I was getting about 3 inch groups at 100 yards with rem. factory ammo, which was fine by me.

Robin down under

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If you guys want to see some videos of shots taken with a 760 or a 7600 check out www.benoitsbigbucks.com. The Benoit brothers of VT pretty much only hunt with Remington pumps. They have shot deer out to 3 or 4 hundred yards.

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I do not think you can get the 7MM 08 in a 18 inch barrel. You cannot get the 270 in a carbine.

I have a 760 in a carbine 308. It shoots 1 inch groups all day with facotry ammo. Never had the trigger done either but it could use a alittle work and would be even tighter. My hunting biddies have it in a 270 and it shoots great !!!!!! 1 inch all day

RE: Rem 7600 Accuracy / Quality?
 

7-08 actually used to be limited production guns in 7600, might have changed. Never seen anything but 3006 and 308 in carbine. Could not pay me to shoot one without hearing protection. Shooting a carbine will make a buddie hate You.

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:)I have about 10 of these rifles. From the old 760 30-06 (2) to the newer 760 270's (4) a 6mm 760 a couple 30-06 7600's and a couple 270's. Also a 243 in 7600. The only one which does not shoot under an inch is the 6mm and it used to about 5000 rounds ago. I actually wore the bolt out on this one and had it welded up with oversize bolt pins. This brought it back to about 2.5" (from about 4") which I consider useless. I believe Remington lied to the person earlier when they said the 7mm-08 had a shorter action because all the 760(0)'s I've ever had apart had everything except the clip and chamber exactly the same. (well the 222 had a smaller bolt face) I plan to rechamber this 6mm to a 240 Gibbs which will move the throat out 1/4" to 30-06 length. Also hold 67 gr of powder instead of 55. Slightly hotter than the 240 Wby. As to fixing the triggers on these rifles just squeeze and twist the trigger spring, and slightly polish the sear to remove the burrs. A better rifle there isn't. I will admit the barrels are too short @ 22 inches and they need more powder capacity chamberings. The only time the pump makes noise is when you slam it shut. Which is on a rapid follow-up shot, so who cares. I have killed deer over 400 yards with my 270's but I have switched to a Sako 30-378 Wby for my beanfield 400+ yard stands. A follow up shot with this rifle is next to impossible, but luckily not usually necessary!

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Just bought a rem 7600, synethic stock, in .308 with 22" barrel. I believe that the action is the same on all of them, they just use a different clip for the .243 & 308's. I think that in 30-06 and a 18" barrel they will be real loud.