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Varmint Rifle Poll..Factory guns only
Gentlemen/women here are your choices:
Savage Sako Tikka Remington Ruger Howa/Weatherby Cooper CZ AR TYPE Centerfire rounds only. Heavy or Light Varmint rifles |
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Now that is a give me. Savage builds the most accurate varmint rifle.
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How did I know you were going to say that;)
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For a lightweight walking varmint rifle I would have to choose Tikka.
For a heavier weight varmint gun I would have to choose Rock River Arms.....Its not on the list though :( |
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Now that is a give me. Cooper builds the most accurate varmint rifle.
Cooper combines style/craftsmenship/elagance and extreme accuracy in building their rifles and unlike like most of the rest they offer 1/2 moa accuracy Guaranteed. All their rifles come with a test target and most if not all are wayyyyyy below 1/2"....have seen mostly one holers;) |
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You got me pegged OEH!!!
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I have very limited experience, but I will go with savage.
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I just read a head to head test between Savage, Sako, Ruger and NEF. The Savage finished first, The NEF second, the Ruger third and the Sako fourth. All of course were darn good shooters but for the average guy to buy and for top notch accuracy, Savage would be at the top IMO. The Accu-trigger put the nail in the coffin lid for most other varmit rifles. The NEF Ultra Varmit is the king of low price varmits riflesand on average will shoot 1/2 inch or better. This for under 300.00 bucks.
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My Ruger .223 M77 Mk II standard will shoot .5 MOA. The only thing I did to it was put a Timney trigger on it.
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This one is a lot easier to pick from as the requirements are much simpler than a big game rifle.......
The requirements are accuracy and strength (Varmint rounds are mostly hi pressure rounds).......People normally don't care about looks or style as they are overwhelmingly a accuracy focused item. Not only does Savage do this but changing barrels is a lot easier with them as well......if you want to use a 25-06 today and a 22-250 tomorrow you can do this. This market belongs to Savage hands down.......and they've earned it..... |
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Just wondering...does Savage have an accuracy guarantee?
No doubton the net that they have a reputaion for accuracy. Does everyone that leaves the factory shoot well.....I dont think so, if they did ...they would have a guarantee. Everyone can have their own opinions but until they do, I aint beleiving it. Now Cooper does and they wont let a mediore rifle leave...plain and simple. I know one group doesnt mean much , but these are good representatives:D |
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Just wondering...does Savage have an accuracy guarantee? Ruger does.....I asked their customer service over the phone and they told me their #1 varmint rifles is warranteed to shoot 1.5" groups at 50 yards.....is that the type of warranty one wants????? The problem with guarantees is that who's doing the shooting?....with what loads?...under what conditions?...over the hood or from a bench..... I'd far rather buy from a company that has a reputation for accuracy.....Warranties are nice but not as good as it seems..... |
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Remington 700 PSS, .223,hands down better than any Savage made. Savage quality just isn't quite up to par with others yet...
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Just wondering...does Savage have an accuracy guarantee? No doubton the net that they have a reputaion for accuracy. Does everyone that leaves the factory shoot well.....I dont think so, if they did ...they would have a guarantee. If they are willing to back their muzzleloaders in that manner....nuf said.. (As for the Cooper's...of course they are one ofthe best...however they are also not at all in the price league of the brands mentioned...:() Savage 10ml... ![]() |
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On a seperate note...Anyone who is really interested in this subject and has not at least looked into the new "Savage Model 12 Precision Varminter" is doing themselves a great diservice.
From Petzal on down...the reviews have been incredible. Petzal was shooting handloads to .319", while Jeff Quinn shot black hills to 3/16th" Savage's newest varmint rifle is called the Long Range Precision Varminter, and is the subject of this review. I recently received a sample chambered for the .223 Remington cartridge, which is one of the most popular cartridges for long range varmint hunters, such as those who shoot prairie dogs. Most prairie dog hunters want a heavy barrel to absorb heat, and the Precision Varminter provides that. This varmint rifle wears a heavy, stainless, one-inch diameter twenty-six inch long target-crowned barrel with a one-in-nine inch rifling twist. This rifle also has no magazine. It has a solid-bottomed receiver that has no magazine cut-out, which provides extra rigidity to the action. The action is bedded into the H-S Precision stock using three bolts which firmly hold the action through a solid aluminum bedding block. The stock has a matte black slightly textured finish and a beavertail forearm. It is fitted with front and rear sling swivel studs, and has a solid synthetic rubber recoil pad. The black and stainless make for a very good-looking, business-like rifle. The barrel is free-floated its entire length. The action has a right-handed bolt, but a left-hand loading/ejection port. This allows the right-handed shooter to easily open the bolt with his right hand and eject the fired cartridge into his left palm, if desired. It also makes loading the rifle very simple and easy. One simply drops a cartridge into the port, and closes the action. All rounds tested fed perfectly this way during the shooting sessions with this rifle. A shooter can get more rounds downrange quicker this way than by stopping every fifth round to load the magazine on a box magazine rifle. The bolt knob is large and easy to grasp. The AccuTrigger releases crisply, and the release measured two pounds and two ounces on this rifle, adjusted to its lowest setting. The rifle weighed in at eleven pounds and thirteen ounces.
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Went to a Sako varmint model 75 in .223. Just couldn't get my Remington to work well enough.
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But this gun is only a single shot!! I can fit 7 rounds in my 700 PSS.
ORIGINAL: jcchartboy On a seperate note...Anyone who is really interested in this subject and has not at least looked into the new "Savage Model 12 Precision Varminter" is doing themselves a great diservice. From Petzal on down...the reviews have been incredible. Petzal was shooting handloads to .319", while Jeff Quinn shot black hills to 3/16th" [align=left]Savage's newest varmint rifle is called the Long Range Precision Varminter, and is the subject of this review. I recently received a sample chambered for the .223 Remington cartridge, which is one of the most popular cartridges for long range varmint hunters, such as those who shoot prairie dogs. Most prairie dog hunters want a heavy barrel to absorb heat, and the Precision Varminter provides that. This varmint rifle wears a heavy, stainless, one-inch diameter twenty-six inch long target-crowned barrel with a one-in-nine inch rifling twist. This rifle also has no magazine. It has a solid-bottomed receiver that has no magazine cut-out, which provides extra rigidity to the action. The action is bedded into the H-S Precision stock using three bolts which firmly hold the action through a solid aluminum bedding block. The stock has a matte black slightly textured finish and a beavertail forearm. It is fitted with front and rear sling swivel studs, and has a solid synthetic rubber recoil pad. The black and stainless make for a very good-looking, business-like rifle. The barrel is free-floated its entire length. The action has a right-handed bolt, but a left-hand loading/ejection port. This allows the right-handed shooter to easily open the bolt with his right hand and eject the fired cartridge into his left palm, if desired. It also makes loading the rifle very simple and easy. One simply drops a cartridge into the port, and closes the action. All rounds tested fed perfectly this way during the shooting sessions with this rifle. A shooter can get more rounds downrange quicker this way than by stopping every fifth round to load the magazine on a box magazine rifle. The bolt knob is large and easy to grasp. The AccuTrigger releases crisply, and the release measured two pounds and two ounces on this rifle, adjusted to its lowest setting. The rifle weighed in at eleven pounds and thirteen ounces.[/align] |
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But this gun is only a single shot!! I can fit 7 rounds in my 700 PSS. If you didn't notice...or are not aware, this setup is prefered by many varmint hunters. It loads as quicker or quicker than using a mag, and more importantly is right hand bolt-left hand ported meaning your hand is already in postition to make any neccesary AO adjustment to your scopes in one motion as you are loading and acquiring your next target. |
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jcartboy, you got it. here is the gun. It has an extra heavy bull bbl and a very solid receiver. http://www.savagearms.com/12PrecVarm.htm
The New Savage Model 12 Long Range Precision Varminter The newest rifle to the widely acclaimed 12 Series Varmint, the model 12 Long Range Precision Varminter, not only defines accuracy, it sets a new standard in long range shooting. The very best in the series, it features an extra heavy barrel--one inch in diameter--and a smaller ejection port that gives more rigidity to the receiver and enhances the accuracy for more precise shooting. The right bolt, left port, also makes it easier to reload with your free hand. This new model comes equipped with the revolutionary AccuTrigger--allowing you to adjust trigger pull from approximately 1 1/2 to 6 lbs, easily. The HS-Precision stock features an alluminum bedding block chassis system and all barrels are button rifled and free floating to enhance the accuracy. ![]() The Model 12 Precision Varminter [*]Right bolt, left port [*]Smaller ejection port giving more rigidity to the receiver for enhanced accuracy [*]H-S Precision black synthetic varmint stock with alloy bedding system [*]Stainless 26" extra heavy barrel, 1" in diameter [*]AccuTrigger, easily adjustable from approximately 1 1/2 to 6 lbs [*]Chambered in 223 Rem; 204 Ruger, 22-250 Rem [*]Drilled and tapped for scope mounts [*]MSRP $967.00 |
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I think we should keep this friendly. but my opinion is if you cant doit the first shot dont do it at all.
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Jeep,
I also just realized I made an assumption that you may not have been aware of… Many of the more demanding Varmint shooters favor scopes with side mounted AO adjustments. This is of course as opposed to the older style where the adjustment ring was on the objective bell. This is why they favor the left hand port as it already leaves their hand right next to the AO ring. (In fact most of the top of line custom varmint rigs are now featuring right hand bolt--right hand loading [/i]even for left hand shooters for many of these same reasons..but that is another topic as this thread was meant to discuss factory guns…) Side Focus A quick way to beat parallax My favorite varmint rifles have the bolt handle and loading port on the left side, even though I shoot from the right shoulder. This way I can load and operate the bolt at the same time my right hand is moving the rifle to the next target. The beauty of the parallax focusing knob, like the one on this Zeiss scope, is that with my left hand already close to the port side focusing knob, it takes only a moment to bring the target into sharp focus, even as I’m applying pressure to the trigger. You literally never have to take your face off the stock. It’s incredible how quickly you can acquire targets and get them into crisp focus this way, which means you’re able to burn a whole lot more powder in a day than ever before. |
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I know that I couldn't fire out of a single shot as fast as a bolt action. But some people might be able to. I just like it because you can load it up and start walking around and not have to carry ammo in your pockets. That Savage does look pretty nice though, they might be getting their quality up with that one. |
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They have a 1" guarentee on their Savage 10ml's...If it is not an actual advertised guarentee I know it is an implicit guarentee. If they are willing to back their muzzleloaders in that manner....nuf said.. (As for the Cooper's...of course they are one ofthe best...however they are also not at all in the price league of the brands mentioned...:() I take that Savage offers no guarantee in accuracy. nuff said..... A firearms company nowdays puts alot of pressure on themselves to claim this accuracy....if not ....more would do so would'nt you think? I know that we all have different opinions on things....and that's good.:D As far as Coopers go, they were included in the survey, so that's why I picked them. I also agree that they are priced considerably higher than the others but you are getting asuperb firearm.My opinion is that theyare actually in a league of their own and cant be compared to Ruger,Savage etc......but they were included. |
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Weatherby Mark V Super Varmint Master Single Shot .220 Swift. Good luck.
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I dont know whats wrong I cant get this damn computer to load my pictures . I wanted to show you all my Ruger m77 MKII .220 swift targets. It will almost hole for hole at 100 yards. All the work I did was the trigger , $35.00 at the gun smith and presto a real varmit rifle was born !!! My nef .243 in bull barrel with alittle work does shoot good too. I also have a savage but in a 116fss.300 mag I lost alot of faith in that rifle when the barrel nut broke. I also put a laminated stock on it to jazz it up abit. So I guess back to the question I would pick the one that I shoot the best and stick to it and practice, practice, practice!!!!! So for me its RUGER M77 MKII
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............Guess as I remember, I never got too many second shots at varmints, or,on a good day even needed them...........a GOOD single shot rifle works fine, IMHO.
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My most accurate varmint rig is a Savage 116 with a 24X Leupold in the 7mm-08! Yes I said "7mm-08", that's my over 500 yard gun...
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ORIGINAL: Pawildman ............Guess as I remember, I never got too many second shots at varmints, or,on a good day even needed them...........a GOOD single shot rifle works fine, IMHO. |
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sorry.....I couldn't help it!!!!
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Vapo, we are going to SD this coming weekend and shooting pdogs. We should meet up there and I could let you shoot a true varmint rifle. I have several mod 12 bull bbl Savages that will shoot a tick off of a pdog at 200 yds. No feeding problems or dependability issues either. Take my challenge; come shoot the king of varmint rifles. I'll buy all the beer that night that you can drink if you can make one of my 6 Savagesjam or not feed properly.
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Remington 700 VLS in 6mm.
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I'll buy all the beer that night that you can drink |
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I've been burnt by savage on a 300wsm!!!! So I wont be buying another!!!! BUT I do have a M112 22-250 and it shoots 5 shots of any factory ammo in a nickle size group. No accutrigger...
I hate to say anything good about them after being burnt... As far as them backing there rifle... They told me 1.56" in my 300wsm was acceptable... Bought a Browning abolt 300wsm shoots under 1 MOA:D I'm a lefty so all my new guns will be left hand models... So it looks like Browning for me:D |
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1.3" isn't all that bad. If you wanted supreme accurcy then you should have bough a varmit/bench gun. Buying a hunting rifle and then asking it to shoot a 1/2" group at the range seems to be asking a bit much. I am surprised it didn't shoot under one inch though. I don't think there is a company out there that has produced products and had lemons in the bunch. Some guns just flat are not going to shoot.
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ORIGINAL: cma3366a Mr Longbeard, I hear ya. I too got burned on a Savage, Mine was an 11FNS .308 Accutrigger that was a 1.3" gun on its best days. Never again. If I had to choose amoungst the current crop of factory varminters, I would take a Remington 700 VS SFII. Outstanding accuracy, and possibly the best trigger (for target-varmint work) currently available. With that said, What I would actually do (and did) would be to buy an older used LV or HV bench gun. You'll pay less and get better accuracy. my savage review http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1510269&mpage=1&key=? Dude I went back and read your savage review... Your groups were almosetidenticle to mine... That Win looks andshoots awsome;) |
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Here is my big varmint rifle group recently fired out of my .300wsm Savage 16BSS accutrigger sporter bbl. 3 shots that a dime will cover.
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