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Pparrish 05-14-2006 03:30 PM

Browning
 
Hello everyone, I'm new to this site and would like to ask your opinion.

I'm a lever action guy, so I'm curious about the Browning BLR w/ pistol grip. Does anyone here have a BLR? If so, what caliber is it and how long have you had it? How well does it perform off the bench and out in the field? Have you had any problems with it, if so, explain please. And any other information you have to give would be greatly appreciated.
I'm looking into getting it in .243 Win. and either 7mm Mag. or .300 Win. Mag. (hadn't made up my mind on that one yet, but that's a question I'll ask later.;))

Hairtrigger 05-14-2006 06:32 PM

RE: Browning
 
I have one in 308 that is the Belgium mfg (pre 81).
I also have a BLR 81 with a steel receiver in 223. Both are smooth and reliable. The 308 will shoot 1 1/4" groups with factory ammo, the 223 is sub moa (I now do not shoot factory ammo).
I have heard of problems with the gear that the lever operates but never hear these stories first hand.
On 24hourcampfire there is a thread you may find interesting on the BLR

handloader1 05-14-2006 11:26 PM

RE: Browning
 
I have a friend who owns a Browning BLR in 7mm Rem. Mag.; It has to have the worst trigger I have ever felt. He tried to have the trigger worked on, but could not find a gunsmith to touch it. He called Browning and their response was it was a hunting rifle not a target rifle. When youpurchase your BLR, testas many rifles' triggersas you can. Make sure you love the BLR's trigger because you will be stuck with it. :(:(Good luck.

Uncle Johns Outdoors 05-15-2006 01:39 AM

RE: Browning
 
I had a BLR in 358 Winchester, not very impressive to me...but im hard to please. Still I like lever actions like you do so I continued the search. After several years I came up with two guns that I had to go custom with to get what I wanted...accuracy.

Both my Savage 99 in .308 and the Marlin .444 are less than 1.5 inches at 100 yards, good for a lever action. Notabley I'm a competitive rifle shooter and I have a sponsor that is a really good gunsmith. So maybe I'm spoiled, but it can be done...both rifles were used and totally restored by Matt Wilson of Leesville, La,Industrial Starters. Either rifle can be found used in a gun show, and if you saw them now you would drool.

oldelkhunter 05-15-2006 06:59 AM

RE: Browning
 
I have had 3 all together all .308's .. Bought the first one as soon as it came out and it was Belgium made...Nice gun but the stock didn't impress me, impressed checkering. I then bought another 308 in 1980 and it was a nicer gun , don't know why I got rid of it . I recently purchased a lightning in 308 and it is sweet. All my 308's have been very accurate and dead reliable. The rifle has the smoothest action and strongest lockup of all lever guns, plus the fact it shoots pointed bullets.. The trigger in my opinion has not been a problem at all and there are no idiotic crossbolt safeties to contend with. I don't think I would buy one in the magnum configuration because they are a bit light. I think the funniest thing I have seen is Marlin pushing XLR rifles that push pointed bullets in a tube magazine and sell for a similiar price to the browning..Why anyone would pick it over a BLR is one of lifes unsolved mysteries.

Pparrish 05-16-2006 10:24 AM

RE: Browning
 
What's the issue with the trigger? Free play? Poundage?

oldelkhunter 05-16-2006 12:23 PM

RE: Browning
 
They are set at a consistent weight but really are not that bad at all, in fact I would say it is pretty decent. I actually have no problems switching from it to my regular bolt rifles which are all set at 3 lbs..The trigger may bother some herebut of all the owners of Blrs I have run across it has not been a problem at all.

Pparrish 05-16-2006 02:36 PM

RE: Browning
 

ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter

I don't think I would buy one in the magnum configuration because they are a bit light.
Are you just talking about the kick issue here or are you meaning they are built too light (components like alum. receiver, etc.)to stand up to the magnums?

Pparrish 05-16-2006 02:38 PM

RE: Browning
 

ORIGINAL: Hairtrigger
On 24hourcampfire there is a thread you may find interesting on the BLR
I went over there and read a few of the posts but was there a particular one you had in mind for me to read? I didn't register there, so search option is not there for me.

oldelkhunter 05-16-2006 02:42 PM

RE: Browning
 

Are you just talking about the kick issue here or are you meaning they are built too light (components like alum. receiver, etc.)to stand up to the magnums?

Kick issue ..I know the newer stocks are better designed for properly transmitting recoil then the older models. As far as strength ask Z-hat gunsmithing about their strength ..they have a small cottage industry building these guns in DG calibers. Why would a company in todays litigation crazy society build a lever actiongun in 300 win mag or any of the WSM's.? Rotary Bolt locking in a barrel reciever is along for the ride anyway.

Pparrish 05-16-2006 02:46 PM

RE: Browning
 

ORIGINAL: handloader1

I have a friend who owns a Browning BLR in 7mm Rem. Mag.; It has to have the worst trigger I have ever felt.
But how do you like the rest of the 7mm BLR??

Hairtrigger 05-16-2006 03:22 PM

RE: Browning
 

ORIGINAL: Pparrish


ORIGINAL: Hairtrigger
On 24hourcampfire there is a thread you may find interesting on the BLR
I went over there and read a few of the posts but was there a particular one you had in mind for me to read? I didn't register there, so search option is not there for me.
Here is one
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=667458&an=0& page=0#667458
here is another
http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=88094
last one
http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=76081

oldelkhunter 05-16-2006 07:14 PM

RE: Browning
 
Read those pieces myself and I think the guy that had problems with him and the sales clerk at the store are full of sh@@t. AS for people favoring the steel over aluminum so be it. I had 2 steel guns and saw nothing they would do over the aluminum reciever but weigh more. To each his own and more internet hearsay.

James B 05-16-2006 07:28 PM

RE: Browning
 
I have a Browning A-Bolt composite hunter in 308. Its a true tack driver. Everything I have tried in it shoots well under 3/4 inch. A friend of mine does Browning triggers to perfection and they are very simple. You can order the reduced weight kit. Mine is to light right now but my friend is a target shooter and he set it for target shooting. No way could I use it for hunting if I had to wear gloves. You would never even feel the trigger until it was to late. He says he can set it up a little stiffer. There was no crepe what-so-ever but the factory setting was probably 6-7 lbs. I would guess its somewhere under one lb now. This gun is light weight though and the recoil is stiff to say the least.

Pparrish 05-17-2006 04:38 PM

RE: Browning
 
The Browning BLR in .300 Win. Mag. is 7.75 lbs without scope.
The Remington 700 in .300 Win. Mag. is 7.5 lbs without scope.

I've shot the Remington 700 and I'm fine with the kick.
So, I can handle the kick of the magnums but will the BLR stand the test of time in the magnum?
After the process of finding the ammo the rifle likes and getting it sighted in, the rifle will be shot just a few times a year (zero check and then the kill shot).

Hairtrigger 05-17-2006 04:46 PM

RE: Browning
 
The BLR has been chambered in 7mag for several years.
Ohio is a shotgun only state so I have no use for a good lever. I only usemy 308for paper punching

handloader1 05-17-2006 10:54 PM

RE: Browning
 
Pparrish:

The trigger on my friends had a lot of travel before one felt any resistance, did dot break cleanly, had a lot of over travel, and was set at 5lbs. I think the Browning BLR is a fine rifle with the exception of the trigger. Good luck.

asparaguy 06-11-2006 08:57 AM

RE: Browning
 
there still seems to problems with blr triggers. I posted how I fixed mine a while back.search back a year for (blr triggers how to fix). print it and take it to your gunsmith .Other than it will void your warrenty I dont know why gunsmiths are afraid to work on them. the only way to change the pull is to change the sear spring.


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