RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

Believe it or not I was able to shoot a 270 WSM and a 7mm rem mag side by side last night. Ran into an old archeryfriend at Sportsmans Warehouse and he let me shoot his wife's 270 and his 7mag. I really liked the 270. I took into consideration that a lot of you are saying the 270 is too light for elk, but the ballistics charts that he gave me to compare were very, very close on the 270 WSM and the 7 mag. I know very little about guns so maybe I'm reading this whole thing wrong. The 270 actually had a little morekenetic energythan the 7 mag at 300 yds. 270 WSM w/150 grain bullet2175 and 7 magw/160 grain bullet2015.(Got these numbers from the FederalPremiumbooklet.)

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

Bringing up the subject of elk hunting with a .270 is sure to get a reaction on this board. Horror stories about animals shot with regular .270 Winchesters using deer bullets - maybe not hit all that well - animal gets away and is not recovered. The .270 caliber gets blamed . . . .

Get the .270 WSM. Loaded with a Nosler Accubond, or one of the other premium bullets; this gun will kill elk or black bear most efficiently - every bit as well as 7 Rem Mag. My primary elk rifle is a .270 Ackley, almost identical in performance to the .270 WSM. Of the seven elk I have killed with this rifle, all were on the ground and dead in less than two seconds. Several were over 400 yards away. I have a 7 STW and a .300 Win Mag. They sit in gun safe most of the time.

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

Using that logic

the 7mmremmag will kill elk or black bear every bit as well as a 300winmag

the 300winmag will kill elk every bit as well as a 338winmag.

and on and on and on:)

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

You whatever logic you choose. I have been around elk and elk hunters all of my life. ON THIS SITE is the only place that the 270 is not enough gun for elk. I have seen them hit and I have seen then go down like a rock. I have never seen one fairly hit that didn't expire very quickly. And Stubble your probably right to a point or I should say Roscoe is right. The difference between an elk hit fairly with a 270 or a 338 Mag will end in the same positive result.

If you want to use a 270, 280 or 7x57 and you can place your sjots well and PASS when you can't then you are a well armed elk hunter and a good ethical hunter.

An exapmle is a guy that I hunt with a LOT. In many years, I have never seen him place a shot less than right on the money. I Have however seen him PASS on many shots because he was not sure he could hit that ten ring. If you can hunt like he does, you can use a 280 like he does with excellent results. Do your homework and if you like a caliber and its at or above the legal caliber allowed in your state, then use it. Chances are the internet flaws with the 270 won't cause a problem one. I am not knocking someone who wants to use a 50 BMG for elk if he wants, the 270 has take to many elk to count over the last 80 years or so. It will still be doing it as long as people hunt elk. Try the 270 and YOU BE THE JUDGE.

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

That 270 wsm would serve you well.

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

I agree and I might add that if you like the way it shoots and don't mind the recoil, the 7MM Mag is a good choice. Its just not my choice. Good Luck

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

An interesting statement coming on the heels of thediscussion just covered.
Almost sounds like a littleafter thought saying, "a little more thump would be a good thing, if you can do it...."

BTW, I consider the 30-06 and the 7mmRemMag to be equivalent cartridges.

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

A little more thump is sure not what I had in mind. What I mean is that if the 7 Mag jerks your chain then by all means, BUY IT. I have seen no real world difference on elk between the rifles from 6.5x55 on up. This, if the hunter does his part. In these calibers, the Thump is provided by the hunter.:DHe does his part, the rifle will do its part.

RE: 7mm mag or 300 win for a lady hunter?
 

I agree completely. Once you are into the threshold of adequate elk calibers, I wouldn't go up the power/recoil ladder any higher than my tolerance for recoil will permit. If she can shoot the .270 WSM comfortably, great. If the 7 Mag or, especially, the .300 Winchester, is uncomfortable to shoot -and gets a flinch reflex started -she isn't going to shoot it as well. I still think the 7-08has the best horsepower to recoil ratio of any caliber discussed here - but the .270 WSM shoots flatter and if the sharper recoil impulse isn't above her recoil tolerance, then buy the WSM. Good shot placement with either caliber using one of these new premium bonded bullets is going to work.