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no
L. O. D. Charter member and L.O.S.

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YES

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YES

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...NO..:)..

..JESUS IS COMING BACK BE READY...

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Yes. Unless you go out with a flintlock. Then your hunting with a primitive weapon.

Scott Meier
White Oak Lodge

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Nope, I mean, what besides maint is so different between my percussion sidelock and my knight MK. The velocity is a little faster, but you still don't have that devistating effect you do with a rifle. Last night, I shot a doe with my muzzleloader. She ran and ran with a good broadside shot. Very little internal damage, very small exit wound compared to my 270 Win. Yes, that 1000 fps increase makes all the difference. When we get past the 2400fps mark, I might consider it.

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Why can't we just hunt with the weapon of our choice without having to constantly justify it to the rest of the hunting community? Its bad enough having to deal with the anti's much less hunters. Sure inlines give some advantages, but not enough to make them near a modern metallic cartridge arm.

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THANK YOU FRIZZELLR,
I hate hearing this junk every year.Hunt how ever it is leagle,make good clean kills and eat what you shoot and everyone should be happy!!

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"Modern" muzzleloaders are still muzzleloaders. They just are made to look like a bolt action rifle. You still have the same components and the same basic function. Advertising hype will lead us to believe the new style guns are easier to deal with and dont have to be cleaned, but thats just not true. Its still a muzzleloader whether it looks like Davy Crockets gun or a raygun from starwars. No they shouldnt be excluded from the muzzleloader seasons. I personally would be in favor of more states having a flintlock only season though to preserve the flavor of primitive style firearms hunting, but Im not going out to campaign for it. Like these other guys said, just hunt with whats legal and dont worry about it. I hunt with my flintlock every year. If you like to hunt with your inline thats your business.

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maybe you can cram more powder in a inline, and mount a scope on it, but neither is necessary, certainly we dont all need scopes, but no one wants a new season for scoped rifles because there can shoot more accuratly or further than someone with iron sights.
mountain out of a mole hill

propmahn

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When someone poses this kind of question to me I usually respond by asking back "Why does a muzzleloader have to be long, heavy, unreliable or inaccurate to be considered a primitive weapon?"

I stuff my Knight from the front just like I'd stuff a Hawken. I wonder how many deer have been wounded because they started to duck , jump or run between the click and boom so common to the "primitive" sidelocks? I know with my Knight that it will fire instantly every time, and the bullet will go where I aim it and a bad shot is no ones fault but my own. And like the guy with a flintlock shooting roundball, I only get one shot.

Mike


Gun control means putting the second bullet through the same hole as the first- Ted Nugent
NRA Member
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Ben Franklin

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No, I agree with a lot of the above.

Here a little story, I was at the range sighting my inline with a scope and older gentleman was shooting his flintlock. Yet another older MLer, stated my gun shouldn't be allowed in the "Traditional ML" season b/c it was way to accurate and not fair chase. Of course I defended my rights and stated I use to use the same gun as him and still have the same 150 yards max range with most shots being under 100 I would take. The other flintlock guy came to my rescue, by stating he could out shoot me with my inline scoped ML and him using his flintlock irons. Well to make a long story short....he did. This guy could hit a shotgun shell case at 100 yards...everytime.

I too hate defending my right to hunt with an inline. Still have to ram the load, practice like heck, failure is always a possibility...basically the same as my flintlock.

I guess we should maybe only allow MLing in buckskin too, since camo is a little unfair. Oh wait what about compound bows vs recurves. Tree stands, scents, scentlock suits, Ultra Mag, scopes, game trackers....you know the list does and can go on. I say as hunters we should never get on others back with new advantages, technology, etc...use our efforts to band as brothers and stand behind HUNTING. Even if you choose to not partake, just don't take!!!!!!!

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PA thinks so..they finally allowed them but only in a week doe hunt in oct i think...i duno bout regualr season im not into muzzelloading....as to answer the question i dont think they are too advanced....yet...soon they might as well stop with it all and make rifle season longer...but not yet...i really dont see why people love hunting with muzzel loaders..exspeacially in PA where flintlocks are the only thing legal in ML season(till this year) i mean why hunt wit ha gun that was made in the 1800s and alota the time doesnt go off or you miss or wound your game? make another rilfe season later i nthe winter and give us another 2 wk seeason...hunt with what you want..thats the way i see it...

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have all ready responed. but here is what i hunt with.

a cva stag hunter. i use eather hornday grat plans conical or the bufflo bore max-ball. both shot to the same point of aim with my gun at 50yd. i use #11 caps and the factory open sites. 100gr ffg clean shot.

so i ask you where do i have an avantage over any cap lock? the reasions i went with the in-line.
1.better safty "at least to my thinking"
2.if i have a faluer to fire i do not have to pull the bullet. "to me its safer there to.
3.i like the feal of that gun.

i all so use a 44 cap and ball.
L. O. D. Charter member and L.O.S.

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I would have to vote NO to the poll. Its a good poll question, as I hear it often at the range. I don't exactly know why the season was made but I think part of archery season has been donated to muzzle loaders. My belief it was created to make us spend more money, It definetly has done that! That being said it adds a little variety or spice if you would, to the hunting life, and if it loads from the muzzle, black or smokeless, it falls in the category, no matter what you have on it.

Thats close enough for the girls I go out with!

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I hunt with a flintlock, but I don't make my own flints, cast my own bullets, make my own bullet lube, powderhowns, or patches. I also don't know how to tan leather. I think some of the inline rifles are silly looking, but I can't complain about people using them if that is their taste.

Until some muzzleloader company comes out with a revolutionary new self-contained bullet, powder, and ignition source that can be quickly loaded from the breech, I won't complain.


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