.300 Weatherby Magnum
 

With all the new Ultra Mag and short magnum cartridges out there, does anyone still celebrate the 300 Weatherby? That used to be the king of the hill. I always wanted one as a kid because I was in awe of it. I finally got one 18 years later. Now it seems that it never gets a mention with the Ultra Mags out there. Anyone still think the Weatherby is hot stuff?

Scott Meier
White Oak Lodge

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Nah its a wimp round why have that when you can burn minimum 20 grains more powder and get 100-150 fps and even more recoil with a 300 ultramag. I would like someone to show me how much cheaper the Utramag is when buying ammunition and remember your buying Remington brass not Norma.

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Barnes X that is the sweetest Elk Rifle out there ..it has stiff but not abusive recoil. Enjoy it thoroughly and I am sure you will. I have found mine to be an extremely consistent shooter and shoots at and below an 1" with factory norma ammo or Hornady custom ammo. No work done to the gun as is from the factory even has a tupperware stock on it.

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Even with all the new cartridge advertisements we are being bombarded with nowadays, in 20 years the 300 Weatherby Mag, 300 Win Mag, and 7mm Rem Mag will still be going strong. I figure a few of these new whizbang wonder rounds will fade into obscurity once the new wears off. Anyone seen a 350 Rem Mag lately?

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I love my .300 WBY. The ultra mag really only seems to have 50-100 fps more over the Wby. That's just like the difference between the Win and Wby. Not enough to make a big stink about. There's always the 30-378. Way more powder but only a little more velocity than the ultra mag. I think the 300 Weatherby is the way to go and I think I'll be stubborn and stuck in my ways on this one.

Scott Meier
White Oak Lodge

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Didn't know my brains were scrambled and I shoot a lot more than 6 times while at the range. I don't have a thing against the 300 Weatherby or the 300 Win The 300 Win is my main hunting gun and I love it but the 300 Ultra mag is a lot of fun also.

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I have a friend who owns a 300 Wby. Mag. he pushes a 180 gr. bullet 3300 f/s 4352 ft/lb, and a 200 gr. bullet 3150 f/s 4406 ft/lb. I think that is still pretty impressive. Good luck.

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Probably the greatest all-around big game cartridge ever invented. It's a bit too much for my bad shoulder, and selling mine hurt as much as loosing your best birddog. None of those other rounds do anything more than the .300 Wby and they kick a whole lot more and burn a bunch more powder. This is the quintessential American cartridge.

Good Dogwork and Good Hunting

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The price of shooting my 300 Wby isn't too bad since I handload. I bought brass in bulk and have plenty of it. The powder, bullets and primers I would buy anyway for our other rifles. I bought Remington brass for about $40 for 100 through Midway. This should last me a while.

Scott Meier
White Oak Lodge

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300 ultra-mag was invented for one thing and one thing only to capture Market Share from Weatherby and in the process slowly put them out of business. Lets examine what an amazing piece of engineering we have here. Get one of the largest rifle cases that will fit in a standard action and cram it full of slow burning powder and then only realize a 100-150 fps advantage over the 300 wthby while burning at minimum 20 grains or more of powder. Wow what an engineering feat heretofore not imagined. I have seen a ultramag break a scope ring(Leupold std front) in half . I thought it was hilarious the guy shooting it wasn't real thrilled , he was taking it pronghorn hunting in Wyoming in a few weeks. Bet he needed all that horsepower for an 80lb pronghorn. How much flatter does it really shoot ? Can anyone truthfully say it is any better and that you can harvest game with it that you can't with the 300 wthby ? As Far as retail prices you are comparing apples with oranges...Weatherby ammo has Norma brass which costs 2x what cheap Remington brass costs. If you were to buy both boxes of brass and chronograph them side by side I bet the difference would shock most of you.

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A friend bought one of the first .300 Ultras, and I got a chance to shoot it. I expected it to be unpleasant, because my old .308 Norma (with Niedner steel buttplate) was no fun at all. I was amazed that the .300 Ultra was very pleasant to shoot! Then he sold the .300 Ultra, and bought a .300 Dakota, which produced about 3000 FPS with a 200-grain bullet, just the same as did my old .308 Norma! Boy, have we come a long way in the past 40 years!! I think the .300 Weatherby is still about as good as it gets, in a .30 magnum round!

Keep yore powder dry!!

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I shoot a Sako 75 chambered for the .300 Weatherby. When I bought this rifle I was actually looking for a .300 RUM, but the dealer had a deal on the Sako which I couldn't pass up. I just felt the Sako was a much nicer rifle than the Remington.

There's not a dimes worth of difference between these two rounds in terms of performance. I reload, so the cost of ammo is not an issue for me. The .300 Wby is a fine cartridge in my book and I look for it to be around for quite a while.

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The Sako is definitely a nice rifle. I have a Finnbear and my dad has a Deluxe. These guns are flawless and smooth.

Scott Meier
White Oak Lodge

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Scott...I have a .300 Weatherby and love it! I reload for a friend,he has a .300 RUM and I can't see any difference. Dead is dead!
Im planning to use the .300 WBY on a &quot;long distance&quot; doe this year...nothing under 300 yards...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hunt Safe!

Jack

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I have the RUM, and have had the 300Weatherby. I like the RUM better. Not for velocity, but with that funky shape on the brass on the weatherby, I had some trouble. Also, I couldn't get the accuracy out it like my RUM. It wasn't the rounds fault, but like the no belt of the 300RUM. And it has tremidous potential for a wide range of loads from super fast to super slow. I have trouble understanding peoples objection to anything new. Nobody said you have to load this thing with 100gr of retumbo. You know alot of the loads have fast powder like 4350. I think people get emotionally attached to things that have been around for a while. And recoil is not bad at all. I have shot featherweight rifles in 270Win that kicks as much. I know when I went Moose hunting a few weeks ago, I didn't even feel the recoil or hear the blast. I rarely do on a prized animal. Some people if they don't have one, they knock it. As for the comparison, if I had my 300Weatherby back and didn't have chamber problems, I wouldnt have hesitated to take it moose hunting or whatever.

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Why not just get a .458 for the ftlbs, etc.?

&quot;Size isn't important, but it HELPS!!!&quot;

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.458 Win? Trajectory is not flat enough. 460 Weatherby is a little flatter shooting for those far off whitetail does.

Scott Meier
White OAk Lodge

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Any Weatherby mag I have ever owned has given me absoluteley no grief accuracy wise and were way more than needed in that dept. If someone has a gripe with it(accuracy) they may have the german variation with the different throat and rifling twist or are flat loading it wrong or who knows they may even have a bum rifle. Hell I had 2 Remington custom shops guns that were disasters until I had them &quot;Accurized&quot;. 2 Gunsmiths have told me that properly chambered(300 Wthby) with a short throat that it is the most accurate hunting round they have ever fired. The Gunsmiths are Patriot Arms in NC and Penrod Precision. BigCountry I have no problem trying out new stuff I do won 2 300 wsm but there is nothing the Ultramag does that a 300 wthby cant unless you believe every printed word out of Remingtons mouth.

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Bigcountry HUSH I bought the 300 RUM so I could burn 100 grs of Retumbo and the recoil is not that harsh. If my shoulder should get sore I have a 220 Swift and others. This rifle has found a home even though it is a bit heavy at 9 lbs. Oh by the way I always wanted a 300 Weatherby but the price of the gun got in the way I just couldn't afford it. I would lust after the 300 Laser Mark.

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oldelkhunter, absolutely, you can get an accurate 300wthby. Just don't like the freebore thing. It is a trick to get that high velocity and if the tolerances are not near perfect, that freebore could hurt accuracy. Thats the reason alot of people worry about throat erosion. They like to get their bullets right up the rifling. But if you don't like belt and would rather your cartridge's shoulder do the job of seating it, then the RUM might be for you. I like to think of it like this. You can get gobs of Horsepower out of a these new ricebangers with all kinds of hightech tricks and turbo's and nitrous, or you can get it with raw bruit strength. Weatherby's concept of freeboring was well ahead of its time when it came out. But you might the type of guy that likes a 454 chevy motor with raw bruit strength than a high tech 4 banger. Then the RUM would be your choice. I would either and not think twice. So give me your theory on why the Weatherby rounds are the most accurate? Scientificly, the concept of freeboring would degate that. Wouldn't you think. But the WSM on the other hand, thats a different story.

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Big Country...I think the Belt has no affect on accuracy one way or the other provided you don't size full size the case. Your right the freebore is what hurts the accuracy on weatherby magnums. Although I don't know if my 300 is a dog since it shoots factory loads almost to 1/2 of their accuracy guarantee on a real good day. If you customize the rifle and make it a short throat you will have one accurate rifle. I am almost tempted to have one made up after talking to these 2 gunsmiths, but I already have a closetfull of Big Mag,Little Mags and Standard calibers. Accuracy wise if you accept the less powder=less recoil and size the cases correctly and they both have the same length throat then the Weatherby is going to be more accurate you know ala 308 win theory.

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Ok, I will accept that theory to some extent if your recoil senitive. But both these calibers are meant for the less recoil sensitive crowd. Ok, I know you wouldn't want me to keep shooting this 300RUM, so go ahead and give me that 1/2&quot; shooter to keep me from making the big mistake of shooting the RUM. I guess I can take it in the woods<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I wish it were a 1/2 shooter it's only maybe 3/4 on a good day but it has that lousy Weatherby tupperware stock on it. Yes they are both for the recoil intolerant types and not the one box of ammo a year hunter that unfortunately is very prevalent these days.

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No, gentleman, they are not for the recoil sensitive. I had a tack driver of a .300 Wby that I had to sell because it just pounded on my bad shoulder a bit too much. I nearly cried when it sold. However, I used the newly available funds to fly to Kentucky and pick up another English Setter pup from champion breeding. When she pointed a covey of chukar on her first wild-bird hunt a couple of weeks ago and I managed to knock down a double for her, the pain (both types) went away.

Good Dogwork and Good Hunting

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I spoke to Remington and all RUM's have freebores. Good luck.

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I have a sako 75 in the 300 ultra mag. I had a KDF break installed before shooting and topped it off with a swarovski 6x24x50 pro hunter scope. The recoil is well below anything I expected, not much more than my 30.06. I am shooting Remington premier 180 gr and placing 3/8&quot; groups at 100 yards. I'll take the 18% more power over the 300 win mag anytime.

Tim

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Yep, they have some freebore. About .1&quot;. Weatherbys have almost 1&quot;. Can't really compare them. But properly reamed by someone who knows what they are doing, you should be able to load the 300RUM and be able to touch the rifling and still be under the 3.6&quot; COL. I have also talked to people at remington. I bet they didn't give out any dimensions or freebore spec. You know why? Cause they are all over the map. I was on a quest a year or so ago. I took my Stoney Point AOL Gauge and a few different bullets around the gun stores. I measured from 3.68&quot; to 3.85&quot;. This is the measurement you would have to load a cartridge to reach the lands. So I finally got past the idiots on the customer service line and got someone who knows what they are talking about in the custom shop, I think Ron Angle, and he kinda admitted that the freebore, if you can call it that, is a combination of machining slop and to fit any ammo that other manufactures come out with.

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I didn't say that my 300 RUM did not kick I said that the recoil wasn't that bad. When I first bought this rifle I really expected to have my shoulder pounded but that didn't happen. I also have had my right wrist fused so when I hold a rifle on the bench the butstock is out at the edge of my shoulder instead of in the pocket. The most I have put through it at one sitting has been 30 rounds but also shoot my 300 Win Mag ,270, 220 Swift, 454 Casull.