RE: Do I need a .338?
 

I never intended to stir up a hornets nest anyway,I just stated a fact that no one has or can prove wrong. I know everyone has their pet caliber.I know that James Bs 300 is a potient rifle, though it's not the (end all ) of power,at the same time neither is the 338. But Nutions law still rules!!! The truth is that most game killed in this country with any of the magnums could be dispatched just as cleanly with a 243 or 270 and with less meat screwed up.The critter that was shot aint gonna look at you and say( is that all the gun you got ) ha-ha.

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

Ah you aint' going to stir up nutin with JamesB. He like it. Go ahead.

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

Nah, go ahead use your .243!

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

The 338 used to have factory loaded 300 grain softpoints. I really could not tell the difference between getting thumped by my 338 and my buddies
375 H&H at that heavy a bullet. I am sure the 338 would do the job, but I am the type that considers fatter calibers for bigger critters. Thus I would go 375 and the ammo is not anywhere near the cost of 416 Rigby. (Heh, some folks also use the 7mm Rem Mag on bears.)

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

270 7mm 308 3006 300 338 375 45/70 450.if the shooter does not do his job.the cal and the gun has nothing to do with it.Fred Bear killed more big game with a stick bow then most of us will kill with a gun.but i would go with the 450 over the 338.take a look at the new hornady lever evolution sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

Forna@yahoo. There is nothing wrong with yiur axample of math, However It does not really make that much difference. Here is what some people can't crasp. Lets say you drop 100 ton rock on a rabbit. Ok now take another rabbit and drop a 200 ton rock on him. Which one will be the most dead. There is such a thing as enough. No-one has to listen to me, in a discussion I relate my expierence as in this case having plenty of use with both the 300 Mag and the 338 Mag. I can't see any noticable difference and the 300 to me has more practical uses and is just plain more versitile.

BC Where would you ever get the idea that I like to argue?;)

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

I never said the 300 wasn't versital, to the contrary I said it was a very useful cartrige. I never said it wasn't a powerful cartrige, it clearly is. What I said was it isn't as powerful as the 338, and the 338 was more than powerful enough for the big bears. If you need to stop a charge from a wounded bear then give me a 460 Wby or take away his credit card. Bot seriously I'd just as soon have my 1895 45-70 with 420 gr hard cast hand loads, cause it will break heavy bones and penetrate for days. This way you don't have to depend on an expanding bullet to hold together, and this removes one element of Murphy's law. I've saw pictures where barns x bullets even lost their fingers when striking balistic medium at too high volicity, so I wonder if their is a 100% dependable expanding bullet out their.

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

There you go. Finally something we can agree on. The 45-70 Marlin is my Bear gun.. A good cast buller is good medicine but so is the 350 grain Hornady RN. Also the 450 Marlin and 444 . I have not used these on bears but they would do the job.

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

whats the range on a 338?

RE: Do I need a .338?
 

As far as it will fly and still stay above Mach1. I guess I don't understand whan you say range. Range to kill a rabbit, range to kill elk, range the bullet will become unstable? Range you stay over 1000ftlbs of energy?