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KareImp 12-28-2005 08:35 PM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 
I may be wrong, but the story I remember is Remington did voluntarily quit making them, because the other name for them is Cop Killers.

They penetrate the standard bullet proof vest. I haven't seen them in years, but I'm not looking for em either.

Who knows, maybe it's all just story???



stubblejumper 12-28-2005 08:44 PM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 
The biggest resistance to them by policeis that since they are sabotted,there is no rifling on the bullet so they can't be traced.Almost any high powered rifle bulletswill penetrate police vests,so they are not unique in this way.

nyorange 12-28-2005 10:41 PM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 
"The biggest resistance to them by policeis that since they are sabotted,there is no rifling on the bullet so they can't be traced"

A few of you guys seem to think the same on this but honestly, trace a bullet by the rifling grooves on the bullet? And compare the rifling grooves you get to what? Plug them into the non existant database of rifle tracing marks? Anyone here have a rifle whose rifling imprints are on file with the FB* or AT*?(Too much CSI). Could it be remington quit making them cuz they just don't sell well and remington realized they would rather sell a new rifle than a new box of shells since the kinda guy who hunts predators or varmints regularly is the kinda guy who will shell out for a dedicated varmint caliber rifle?take care.
P.S If you know of actual use for the rifling marks please post, I would love to hear about it. Just seems crazy with +300 million guns in this country that someone has them all cataloged and ready for "tracing".

Rebel Hog 12-29-2005 01:36 AM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 
All about ballistics in solving crimes, by Katherine Ramsland

Ought Six 12-29-2005 11:12 AM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 

I may be wrong, but the story I remember is Remington did voluntarily quit making them, because the other name for them is Cop Killers.

They penetrate the standard bullet proof vest. I haven't seen them in years, but I'm not looking for em either.

Who knows, maybe it's all just story???
If I wanted to shoot through a vest....I sure wouldnt use a 55 grain varmint bullet out of a 30-06. I think I would choose a FMJ. A heavy one. Of course, a FMJ would retain rifling marks...a varmint bullet would explode, making tracing the rifling marks tough. Still, if I had to make a shot at a vested target, I would want a tough bullet that would not come apart on the vest. I think I would still opt for the FMJ...even over a monolith. Dunno how well a round nose monolith would do on a vest and I imagine they arent as common as FMJs. I imagine it would take one helluva good vest to stop an '06 bullet and if I recall correctly, most vests are designed to stop handgun rounds. Even the mighty 44 Magnum is a wussy when compared to a medium rifle cartridge.

shepdogwv 12-29-2005 03:33 PM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 
the point of the rifling isn't to check it to a real big database to find the crimnal (or criminal gun rather) but it's to prove that the bullet came from a specific gun. So if you find the person, it provides proof that the bullet came from their gun. That is my understanding atleast

pintailhomes 12-29-2005 04:13 PM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 
I would have to agree that a "criminal" isn't going to walk into a store and pick up a box of these rounds to use. Anyone can still buy the materials necessary to handload one anyway.

Hunter06FlKy 01-01-2006 06:31 PM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 
the main reason remington quit making them was for the lack of leaving rifling.

but back to the origional quiestion. they do still make them. i bought a box of them a few months ago. they were $24.95 a box. definately not cheap. i haven't shot any of them. for varmint hunting with a 30-06 you might as well use the 125g. bullets. they're alot cheap and have better overall ballistics than the accelerators.

Briman 01-01-2006 07:16 PM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 

the main reason remington quit making them was for the lack of leaving rifling.
One of the reasons why I don't buy stuff from remington anymore- they tend to perpetuate rediculous urban legends. A foster slug shot from a smoothbore shotgun might not penetrate a bulletproof vest, but will likely push the vest all the way back until it touches the wearers spine- dead is dead whether it penetrates or not. We won't even mention shotgun and muzzleloader saboted bullets.

A standard 30-06 bullet will penetrate everything up to level IV body armor on its own.


Windwalker7 01-01-2006 08:54 PM

RE: .30-06 Remington Accelerator 55 grain
 
This post just gave me an idea. I've been thinking of doing some coyote hunting. I've got a few boxes of Accelerators for my '06. I've had them for several years.(Now if I can only find them) I remember that their ballistics were very similar to a 22-250.

Thanks for the idea!


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