Need help building my slug gun
#1
Spike
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Need help building my slug gun
I have a Remington 1187 Premier that I'd like to use as a slug gun and Im really at a loss a to what type barrel, smooth bore with or without rem choke or rifled barrel and make ( should I stick with remington or get anoth brand barrel), to purchase along with your top 2 slug ammo recommendations for said setup. I'd couldnt see myself taking a shot past 100 yards with it, with the vast majority being less than 75yards at most. The only reason I'm leaning towards a smooth bore w rem choke is in case I needed to make a fast follow up shot.........HELP ME
#2
Join Date: Mar 2005
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RE: Need help building my slug gun
I do not understand why a smooth bore allows for a faster follow up shot than a rifled barrel. If all you shots are under 75 yards a smooth bore will be just fine, but what happens when the buck of a lifetime is 125 yards away. Rifled barrels are worthless inless you use saboted slugs wich are very expensive. So if you have the extra money to spend on the sabots I would buy the rifled barrel.
#3
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blissfield MI USA
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RE: Need help building my slug gun
Really, my H&R ultra shoots rifled slug great. What do you think they used in rifled barrels before sabots came out? Rifled barrels were originally made to increase the accuracy and range of of the current foster type slugs.
They work fine, you just need to clean them because they lead up.
I would get a hastings fully rifled cantilever barrel and a good shotgun scope.
Paul
They work fine, you just need to clean them because they lead up.
I would get a hastings fully rifled cantilever barrel and a good shotgun scope.
Paul
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Need help building my slug gun
ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr
Rifled barrels were originally made to increase the accuracy and range of of the current foster type slugs.
They work fine, you just need to clean them because they lead up.
I would get a hastings fully rifled cantilever barrel and a good shotgun scope.
Paul
Rifled barrels were originally made to increase the accuracy and range of of the current foster type slugs.
They work fine, you just need to clean them because they lead up.
I would get a hastings fully rifled cantilever barrel and a good shotgun scope.
Paul
I dont know where you heard this butNO. foster slug will gum up rifle barrels . I will agree that a hasting barrel is the best but use a sabot slug. when the first rifle barrel cameout it was match to a company the made the B.R.I. sabot slug federal bough out and change the name of the slug.
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Need help building my slug gun
I would buy the factory remington cantilever barrel. Put a quality low magnification scope on it and you're good to go to 100 yds no problem with today's new slug offerings.
#6
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: Need help building my slug gun
Well there are thousands of people using them in rifled barrels and have been for many years, Brenneke even makes a slug just for it.
Yes they foul the barrel but all you have to do is clean it. It does not ruin it like many believe. Not different than shooting a lead conical out of a ML.
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Saboted slugs are pretty new to the scene really.
Paul
Yes they foul the barrel but all you have to do is clean it. It does not ruin it like many believe. Not different than shooting a lead conical out of a ML.
Slug gun history
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And another
Saboted slugs are pretty new to the scene really.
Paul
#7
RE: Need help building my slug gun
In 1823, the first shell guns were invented by the French General Henri-Joseph<br> ... For guns they were latterly fitted with a wooden disc called a sabot, ...
http:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_(projectile)
When The Sabot Fits, Wear It (say-bow)......... Means shoe in French.
In 1985, when Del Ramsey invented the modern muzzleloading sabot the velocity and windage limitations attributed to conical projectiles in muzzleloading rifles vanished, and the need to externally lubricate them went down the drain with the last Pine-Sol scented batch of "Bore Butter."
#8
RE: Need help building my slug gun
I'd get a cantilever slug barrel and a low power scope like maybe a 2.5x or a red dot and shoot sabot. In my expereince they transfer much more energy than smooth bore slugs. As far as fast follow up shots go I don't think there should be a difference at all. For Sabot loads I'd look at the remington Core-Lokt and and the Winchester Partition Gold, and jsut see what patterns best in your gun.
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RE: Need help building my slug gun
Oh, don't take what I said wrong, I think some of the newer sabots are much better as well in performance. I was just saying that if you didn't have the money to spend 3 dollar a box rifled slugs will work. My gun shoots them just fine as far as accuracy goes, until the barrel fouls out.
The sabots are for sure more user friendly to shoot, and cleaning is a breeze.
Paul
The sabots are for sure more user friendly to shoot, and cleaning is a breeze.
Paul
#10
Spike
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RE: Need help building my slug gun
Well I purchased a Remingtom cantilevered rifled slug barrel and got some Buckhammers and got it 0ed in @ 100 yds after only 3 shots, is there any need to shoot any more rounds?