RE: M1 carbine-good brush gun
 

When I was stationed in Alaska last century~!!!! there was an Eskimo teenager in Unalakleet who killed a polar bear with a .22 short. But that does not make the .22 rimfire a bear gun!!

RE: M1 carbine-good brush gun
 

I have a friend who used to use a .30 Carbine as a deer gun when he was younger. Every deer he shot dropped, and didn't get up. HIs dad and grandpa used the gun before him and never lost a deer. I wouldn't use it, but at short ranges it seems like it works.

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Well, as you know, bullet placement is the most important factor in killing game, regardless of what kind of bullet we're talking about!

TheEskimo kid who killed the Polar bear with his .22 stuck the muzzle of his rifle into the bear's open mouth, and shot it through the spinal cord from the INSIDE OUT! I wonder if I would have had presence on mind enough to do that, staring an enraged Polar bear in the face at such a close distance!

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Im betting the eskimo kid spent the rest of the day doing laundry :D

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:DTell you what, James B., I'll take the M1 carbine and you bring the golf club and meet in an alley-winner take all.[:@]

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New to the forum and first post. Thought I would stir the pot.

I know persons in Missouri who have harvested deer with the .30 carbine round and dead is dead. With good bullets, soft point, not FMJ, out to about 100 yards, I would not feel at all undergunned with the .30 carbine for white tail.

The .357 is commonly accepted as a handgun round for whitetail. Pull the ballistics charts and look at the .357 magnum round (either 4" or 18" barrel,I don't care) and compare it with the .30 carbine's energy.

I think if you can show deer on the ground from a .30 carbine round and black and white ballistics showing capacity to transfer energy into your target, what more proof can be given?

RE: M1 carbine-good brush gun
 

lol!!! i know who i'll put my money on!!!

RE: M1 carbine-good brush gun
 

I don't like the M1 carbine. Not enough knock down power. But it depends on the placement of the shot. I hunted in the 70's with one and I killed deer with it but always had to track the deer down and find them. My father fought in Korea and he hated the gun. He said it was useless as tits on a boar hog. He much prefered the M1 Garand over the carbine.

But if you like it and it works for you, then good. I like a remington 7400 or 742 .30-06 in the short carbine frame for a brush gun.

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Good bet!!

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A short defense of the .30 Carbine round:

As DeGuello pointed out, bullet placement is everything and I would start with that as a given with regards to any shot fired with any round. Secondary to placement may be bullet construction, full metal jacket vs soft point vs SJ Hollow point, and so on.

My first 25 years hunting were in woods and swamps in Tennessee, Arkansas and Mississippi. I never encountered a deer over 100 yards away while hunting, most 25-50. I think there is an ENORMOUS difference between an unexpected (to them at least) shot on a subject, two legged or four at 50 yards and a "Hail Mary" shot with FMJ rounds at 200-300 yards at a charging Communist wearing 2-3 inches of heavy winter clothing and web gear as was the case in Korea, thinking specifically of Chosin in '50.

Know your subject, (agitated or not, heavily clothed, muscled, furred) , know your round, place your shots.

While not a great round or the "best" round whatever that may be, I think the .30 carbine is under appreciated for what it can do and is a fine entry caliber for the kind of shooting I have seen and described above.