Does this Slug Gun Exist?
 

Is there a shotgun that is made for shooting deer slugs that can shoot accurately "Out of the Box" ??? (scope tuning not considered)

I'm ready to retire my inconsistent Ithaca Model 37 w/ deerslayer.

RE: Does this Slug Gun Exist?
 

Good friend of mine has a single shot slug gun that'll take deer out to about 125 yards. Not sure of the group size, though. I'm pretty sure it's a NEF with a heavy barrel.

RE: Does this Slug Gun Exist?
 

Their are several out their. The Browning Abolt would probably be at the top. Their is also the savage bolt action(210?), Remington 11-87 with rifled cantilever barrel, H&R Ultra slug hunter, Browning gold with rifled cantilever barrel, and the Winchester X2 rifled with cantilever. All of these, with the proper round will be plenty accurate out to 125 yards. Good luck

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I think most any of the newer shotguns with rifled barrels will shoot accurately out of the box. You just need to find the right ammo is all.

What do you consider accurate? I don't think 1-2 inch groups at 100 yards is out of the question and 3 or 4 inches at 100 yards should be pretty easy to get.

I own a H&R Ultra Delux, and I have friends that own remington pump and semi auto's and I a few that own mossy 500's. They will all shoot 2 inch or under groups at 100 yards off from a bench with the right ammo.

I will give you a tip though, if you are shooting a shotgun with a removable barrel it either needs to be pinned to the reciever or the scope needs to be mounted to the barrel in order to get consistant accuracy. If you have reciever mounted sights and a barrel that doesn't fit really tight you will have trouble getting good accuracy.

What model do you have? An older deer slayer, or a newer deer slayer II or III. Does it have a rifled barrel? The newer models have heavy barrels that are screwed right into the reciever and are pretty darn accurate. What kind of slugs are you using out of it?

And could it be you, not the gun? Some people just don't shoot a slug gun very well.

Paul

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Retire or sell?

They do exist. Heck, the last 3 I bought have more than met my expectations.

1. 12 gauge H&R Ultra Slug Deluxe w/ 4X scope.

2. 20 gauge H&R Ultra Slug standard model w/ 4X scope.

3. Mossberg 12 gauge rifled/ported slug barrel w/ 3-9X scope. Factory "laser
bore sighted". $169.99 + tax. Put it on older Moss 500 and it shoots
1-1/4 oz. BuckHammers excellently. My buddy bought the same Mossy
combo for his 870 and it too shoots very well. Both right out of box.

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Paul,

It's an older model 37. My dad actually gave it to me years ago, it was his gun. I have a Leupold shotgun scope installed on the receiver not the barrel. I have been shooting the remington sluggers since the sabots did not seem to shoot very well. I think I got that from the forum last year regarding trying the rifled slugs and that helped, but it's still not consistent. Is it me? I don't think so. I can shoot a muzzleloader with iron sights and drop deer at 80 yards with no problem. I can group better with my bow at 40 yards. I'm convinced it's the gun.

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If it has a rifled barrel and you have shot alot of sluggers thru it, sounds as if it maybe leaded up.

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I shoot lightfield slugs out of my winchester 1300 black shadow. Its 12 gauge, i can put 3 slugs one at 10, one at 25, and one at 50 almost all through the same hole shoots low to the left about a inch. But i never fixed my sights yet so that was out of the box. And it groups GOOD!

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The Savage 210 certainly qualifies...and is my personal choice for general field use.

The gun is easily capable of 1-2 in groups at 100yds right out of the box with the proper ammunition. I have found the Remington Core Lokt Ultras to work in perfect combination with the Savage 210.

Below is a pic of my 210, the last 3 shot group I fired at the range, and finallya buck I took at about 90ydsthrough the woods last weekend.

Savage 210...




Range group


NY Shotgun Buck

RE: Does this Slug Gun Exist?
 

Get the H&R SLug Gun in 12 Gauge bore but in a 10Gauge Barrel.

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A very accurate gun,unfortunately theweight is a large drawback.

For example....My good friend Patrick, (pictured below with his H&Rand abuck he took last week while we were hunting),was just talking about the fact that he ishappy with its performance but constantly regrets having to carry the gun for any distance. In fact he was talking about going back to carrying his Ithaca Deerslayer on drives in order to avoid the H&R.

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I was in the sport shop earlier tonight and had the chance to shoulder the H&R 12 and yes it's heavy. The owner of the shop says he prefers the 20 over the 12 because of the weight.

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Drakeman,

It all comes down to what you want to compromise on the most with the H&R, with the 12ga you compromise on the weight, with the 20ga you compromise on downrange trajectory, velocity, and energy. It just matters what is most important to you.

I chose the Savage over the H&R'sbecause I didn't want to compromise on any of those things. The one thing I did have tocompromise on is the cost of the gun. I am happy I decided to pay the extra hundred and fifty dollars for the Savage. Based on recent sales of used Savage 210's on various auction sites I am confident I could recoup ninety five percent of myoriginal purchase price if I were to sell it today. In the long run the cost difference is negligable.

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Most slug guns work fine, just takes a lot of practice with different ammo. Good fit is important. Personally I don't understand why groupings at 100 yards with a slug gun is important. I've been deer hunting for 15 years in Iowa and with several hunters over the years and50 yards is the longest shot I would take with open sights, but I've never used a scope on a slug gun.

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The H&R's don't need to be that heavy either. They have a steel bar in the stock, just take it out if you don't want the weight. And from what I understand with the H&R's the 20 guage is actually the better gun. They seem to be a bit more accurate and have more flexability because you can swap out different barrels on them.

Had money not been a concern for me I would have bought the savage. Same way with my Muzzle Loader, which JCC also has[:'(].

And where I hunt my longest possible shot is 150 yards, I hunt over a meadow that butts up against a small woods and a large corn field. To the far corner of the property to my blind is 147 yards. And deer tend to walk right down the fence line on the other side and hop the fence near the far corner.

Paul

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Just ran across this post. I am going to assume that the deerslayer is a smoothbore. Iv'e used slug guns for over 30 years. It is very true that different guns like different slugs. You have to try until you find one that works. The sabots will not work with a smoothbore. One slug that I have seen work very well in a lot of guns is the Winchester super X 2 3/4". That slug worked very well for me in my smoothbore remington 1100 with rifle sights and a scope that was custom mounted to the reciever. At 100 yards I would print groups of 1 - 2" very regularly. Sometimes with holes touching. I used Ironsighter rings so that I could use the rifle sights in case the scope was fogged up. I'm sure that I harvested more than 40 deer with that setup, at ranges from 20 to 125 yards. Unfortunately my favorite gun was stolen about a year ago. I just replaced it a week ago with another 1100 synthetic stock with a rifled barrel and cantelever scope mount. Now I will have to go to the more expensive saboted slugs.
I prefer to use the gas operated semi auto because it takes some of the kick out. Also you already have a bullet chambered for a second shot. I have had several people that I know over the years miss with the first shot and the deer still be standing there, but then spook when they had to rack another round into the chamber. There are lots of good slug guns out there but I wouldn't give up on yours yet without trying some other ammo.