.308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
10-06-2005, 08:28 PM
#12
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RE: .308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
I think the biggest problem with the .308 is that when you hold it up next to a .300 RUM - or even a 30/06 - it looks pretty dinky. This probably goes on every year in elk camp around the campfire - leaving the .308 shooter feeling shortchanged and stature challenged. The performance is actually pretty good - particularly with 165 grain bullets, and within its effective range. Out to about 250 - 300 yards with a premium 165 gr. pill, the .308 is an very effective and reliable game getter. The average marksman has no business shooting beyond these distances.
You all have probably noticed that .308 Winchesters dominate the sniper rifle calibers. This is no small coicidence. One of those inherently accurate calibers that is not real fussy about loads, and is not real temperature sensitive about holding zero. Recoil is about at the upper limit of what most shooters can tolerate for extended shooting sessions. One of the greatest all around calibers ever developed . . . .
You all have probably noticed that .308 Winchesters dominate the sniper rifle calibers. This is no small coicidence. One of those inherently accurate calibers that is not real fussy about loads, and is not real temperature sensitive about holding zero. Recoil is about at the upper limit of what most shooters can tolerate for extended shooting sessions. One of the greatest all around calibers ever developed . . . .
10-06-2005, 08:47 PM
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RE: .308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
The .308 is too small for water buffalo and too big for chipmunks.
A .300 magnum/wsm/rum doesn't do anything that the .308 does within typical hunting distances except put more kinetic energy into the ground, trees, and brush behind the deer.
I use one for hunting deer.
A .300 magnum/wsm/rum doesn't do anything that the .308 does within typical hunting distances except put more kinetic energy into the ground, trees, and brush behind the deer.
I use one for hunting deer.
10-06-2005, 08:51 PM
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RE: .308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
probably goes on every year in elk camp around the campfire - leaving the .308 shooter feeling shortchanged and stature challenged.
10-06-2005, 09:18 PM
#15
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RE: .308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
A .308 win is only about 100 fps slower than a 30-06 so there is nothing an 06 can do that a .308 win can't. No game animal can tell the difference and I have personally taken game from deer to moose with mine.
10-06-2005, 10:22 PM
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RE: .308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
Sidenote: This thread has wound its way in and out of elk hunting, hence my interest.
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Elk bullets work about the same way, heavier premium bulletsat medium to high speeds are just devastating --- a point not lost in the "elk poll."
There's a reason why my wife calls H1 Hummers driven by city dwelling men as 'penis mobiles'
Elk bullets work about the same way, heavier premium bulletsat medium to high speeds are just devastating --- a point not lost in the "elk poll."
10-06-2005, 10:47 PM
#17
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RE: .308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
A lady of the evening once took a customer to her room. After a fashion the madam of the house heard laughing coming from the room and investigated and to her surprise her employee was laughing at her customer's tattoo on his love tool. It said "MIGHTY"
The madam insister her employee get to business and satisfy the customer and left the room to allow for privacy.
After a while the Madam heard screaming and terror coming from the room and again inspected the premises and when she asked what the problem was her employee informed her that when the customer got the wrinkles out of that "thing" it really said "Massachusettesinstituteoftechnology"
Armed with this analogy one could really say that the .308 has the tattoo of "MIGHTY" on it
The madam insister her employee get to business and satisfy the customer and left the room to allow for privacy.
After a while the Madam heard screaming and terror coming from the room and again inspected the premises and when she asked what the problem was her employee informed her that when the customer got the wrinkles out of that "thing" it really said "Massachusettesinstituteoftechnology"
Armed with this analogy one could really say that the .308 has the tattoo of "MIGHTY" on it
10-07-2005, 12:09 AM
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RE: .308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
A 308 can take down any animal in North America as long as you can place the bullet in the right spot. And yes a 150gr bullet is perfect for deer and it can kill elk and moose too but if you are uncertian go to the 180gr.And a 308 is no where close too small for anything, like you can kill elk and moose with a bow can't you? so I would think a 308 can do the job just perfect.
10-07-2005, 06:57 AM
#20
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RE: .308 TOO BIG TOO SMALL???????????
Vapo,
That was a funny one, I hope it survives the moderator's gaze.... More applicable to a "short mag" story perhaps, but funny nonetheless.
Once we stretch out that 308, what cartridge do you think it will magically turn into? No belt so maybe a 300 Dakota or a 300 RUM, if we swell it a bit maybe a 325 WSM! Hope it doesn'tstretch the brass too thin so as not to be ableto handle the pressure. Best bring more powder and more bullet if one does stretch it.
[BTW, Still trying to figure how the mighty fellow got the "G" ahead of the "H" and the "T" behind the "H", but most folks don't pay much attention to the details, so it still works --- great joke.]
That was a funny one, I hope it survives the moderator's gaze.... More applicable to a "short mag" story perhaps, but funny nonetheless.
Once we stretch out that 308, what cartridge do you think it will magically turn into? No belt so maybe a 300 Dakota or a 300 RUM, if we swell it a bit maybe a 325 WSM! Hope it doesn'tstretch the brass too thin so as not to be ableto handle the pressure. Best bring more powder and more bullet if one does stretch it.
[BTW, Still trying to figure how the mighty fellow got the "G" ahead of the "H" and the "T" behind the "H", but most folks don't pay much attention to the details, so it still works --- great joke.]