gun laws & moving
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I mabye moving from Georgia back home to central New york in the next few weeks and I own ahandgun. I know I cannot just pack it and bring it with me driving across state lines and the laws in N.Y. are strict and it takes awhile to get a permit there. So my question is what do people do with their handguns in a case like this?
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Typical Buck
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From: Central Michigan
You should check the local laws, but I would unload it and put it in a locked case and store it in the trunk with the ammo seperate. It would be hard for any law enforcement agency to screw with you this way.
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From: Blissfield MI USA
I had a buddy years ago in the military that went to jail for just that. For what ever reason they asked if he had any weapons in his car or they searched it. It was in the trailer in a locked case. They took the weapon and him from the way he told it. This was in New York as well. We may not have heard the whole story either, but he was pretty level headed upstanding guy, not a trouble maker. Older guy with a wife and two kids.
And that was with someone that was active duty PCS'ing from one base to another?
Legally I don't know how you would go about it without calling every state you were going thru just to be safe. I know when I moved from here to california I flew, and they said just put it in your luggage (years ago by the way). And when I drove back in 95 or 96 I just put it in the U haul trailer and prayed it didn't get searched for some stupid reason.
I bet if you got a hold of the NRA they would be able to point you in the right direction or give you accurate info. I have always wondered this myself to be honest.
Paul
And that was with someone that was active duty PCS'ing from one base to another?
Legally I don't know how you would go about it without calling every state you were going thru just to be safe. I know when I moved from here to california I flew, and they said just put it in your luggage (years ago by the way). And when I drove back in 95 or 96 I just put it in the U haul trailer and prayed it didn't get searched for some stupid reason.
I bet if you got a hold of the NRA they would be able to point you in the right direction or give you accurate info. I have always wondered this myself to be honest.
Paul
#4
BGates..... Honest? Don't go back to NY!! 
Trust me, I'm originally from NY and still have family up there. The whole state is whacked and day by day is slowly getting ruined. My sister/brother-in-law, a nephew, countless cousins, and friends have all got the heck outta dodge and left NY State.
I read on another board where a member was looking at the current laws in NY State and if you own a handgun and move to NY, you will get arrested instantly. NY is sadly now like MA and Kalifornia!!

Trust me, I'm originally from NY and still have family up there. The whole state is whacked and day by day is slowly getting ruined. My sister/brother-in-law, a nephew, countless cousins, and friends have all got the heck outta dodge and left NY State.
I read on another board where a member was looking at the current laws in NY State and if you own a handgun and move to NY, you will get arrested instantly. NY is sadly now like MA and Kalifornia!!
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I mabye moving from Georgia back home to central New york in the next few weeks
I'd call the New York State Dept of Public Safety/State Police and ask them what the law says about bringing a handgun into the state. Then I'd call the localpolice dept. ans find outif there are any local ordnances thatgo beyond the state law. Some states allow their political subdivisions to overrulestate law, others don't, but you should checkconsidering howleft leaning NY is.
Mike
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It is a anbeautiful state but it is a shame they have been running it into the ground. I have family there as well and that is one of the reasons I was thinking of moving back so my kids can know myside of the family alot better than they do especially since my stepmother who I am close and has beenwith my dadfor the last 17 years to just found out she has cancer and it does not look good for her and I would like to be there for her and my dad. I have also had four family members die in the past year up there and it makes you think of how fast life goes by and can end. The NRA sounds like a good place to start with though and i will try them first if I do decide to move there. I was just curious of what people do when they have to or want to move and not want toget rid of their handguns.I might just stay here though since Georgia is a pretty nice state. Thanks for your replies.
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Welcome to the people's State of New York. But seriously, If you move up here,I advise you to get your pistol (s) in the hands of a licenced gunsmith or dealer. They can hold your gun for you while you work on getting your permit. Yes you have to have a permit to legally posess a handgun in New York.
If you have a friend or family in New York who has a permit, you can have them put on his and have him hold them for you. Without a permit to posess or cary, It's a free 1 year mandatory visit to the pokey. You can have your local gunsmith ship them up before you move. It will save a lot of hastle and problems. I don't like it. But that's the way it is here. Pretty soon we'll need licences for nail clippers.
If you have a friend or family in New York who has a permit, you can have them put on his and have him hold them for you. Without a permit to posess or cary, It's a free 1 year mandatory visit to the pokey. You can have your local gunsmith ship them up before you move. It will save a lot of hastle and problems. I don't like it. But that's the way it is here. Pretty soon we'll need licences for nail clippers.
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From: SW Virginia
First, as stated by others, don't do it! If any way around it, stay out of N.Y. state. But, if you must:
DO NOT BRING A HANDGUN INTO THE STATE OF NEW YORK WITHOUT FIRST HAVING A LICENSE FOR THAT HANDGUN!
Following is a copy of an FAQ from the N.Y. State Police website concerning this issue:
FAQs - Relocating to another state or county
Q - How does the law apply to licensed individuals from other states who move to New York and wish to posses their handguns here?
New York State currently has no reciprocal agreements with any other states and does not recognize any other state's licenses. It would be unlawful for an individual to move to New York State and possess handguns in the state without first being licensed by the county in which the individual will reside.
There are two options for individuals already in possession of handguns in their home state.
[ul][*]They must either leave the weapons in the possession of an individual in their home state who may lawfully possess them until such time as the owner can legally possess them in New York State, or[*]They may leave them in the possession of a licensed gun dealer in their home state who would be willing to hold them until that individual can lawfully possess them in New York State. [/ul]
In either case, the weapons can only be lawfully brought into New York State via a licensed dealer in the home state shipping them to a licensed dealer in New York State from whom the owner may take possession.
Weapons personally brought into New York by the owner would result in forfeiture of the weapon and possible criminal charges brought against the owner.
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If you take any handgun into N.Y. without first having the license for it you can, and likely will be, charged with a FELONY. At that point you can kiss your RKBA goodbye - forever.
(Even New Jersey is not as bad as N.Y. on possession of firearms.)
If you're moving to New York City, just hang it up/forget it, and sell your guns first.
Here's a link to that FAQ above: http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/FAQs/Firearms
Also, here's another useful link, the NRA's website on gun laws which includes info. on each state. It's usually pretty accurate, but always double check it: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Default.aspx
DO NOT BRING A HANDGUN INTO THE STATE OF NEW YORK WITHOUT FIRST HAVING A LICENSE FOR THAT HANDGUN!
Following is a copy of an FAQ from the N.Y. State Police website concerning this issue:
FAQs - Relocating to another state or county
Q - How does the law apply to licensed individuals from other states who move to New York and wish to posses their handguns here?
New York State currently has no reciprocal agreements with any other states and does not recognize any other state's licenses. It would be unlawful for an individual to move to New York State and possess handguns in the state without first being licensed by the county in which the individual will reside.
There are two options for individuals already in possession of handguns in their home state.
[ul][*]They must either leave the weapons in the possession of an individual in their home state who may lawfully possess them until such time as the owner can legally possess them in New York State, or[*]They may leave them in the possession of a licensed gun dealer in their home state who would be willing to hold them until that individual can lawfully possess them in New York State. [/ul]
In either case, the weapons can only be lawfully brought into New York State via a licensed dealer in the home state shipping them to a licensed dealer in New York State from whom the owner may take possession.
Weapons personally brought into New York by the owner would result in forfeiture of the weapon and possible criminal charges brought against the owner.
---------------------------------------------------
If you take any handgun into N.Y. without first having the license for it you can, and likely will be, charged with a FELONY. At that point you can kiss your RKBA goodbye - forever.
(Even New Jersey is not as bad as N.Y. on possession of firearms.)
If you're moving to New York City, just hang it up/forget it, and sell your guns first.
Here's a link to that FAQ above: http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/FAQs/Firearms
Also, here's another useful link, the NRA's website on gun laws which includes info. on each state. It's usually pretty accurate, but always double check it: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Default.aspx
#9
Typical Buck
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From: central Ky
I have an internet buddy that moved from Kalifornia to upstate NY last year. If I recall correctly, he shipped his handguns to a local FFL holder and that fellow stored them until all the correct liscenses were approved. This guy is a retired LEO from the LAPD and it still was quite a hassle. And for the record, he's already thinking of packing up and getting outta there before it gets worse!!!
#10
ORIGINAL: bgates
I mabye moving from Georgia back home to central New york in the next few weeks and I own ahandgun. I know I cannot just pack it and bring it with me driving across state lines and the laws in N.Y. are strict and it takes awhile to get a permit there. So my question is what do people do with their handguns in a case like this?
I mabye moving from Georgia back home to central New york in the next few weeks and I own ahandgun. I know I cannot just pack it and bring it with me driving across state lines and the laws in N.Y. are strict and it takes awhile to get a permit there. So my question is what do people do with their handguns in a case like this?
(I did bring one with me, but it was a Ruger "OLD ARMY" cap & ball revolver, which is "not a firearm" under NY law,unless it is accompanied by powder, balls & caps!! I put it on my permit later, because I got powder, balls & caps so I could shoot it - it then became a "firearm".
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