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Old 08-08-2005 | 06:02 PM
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I called the folks at Remington today and was very pleasantly surprised that they did not question how it broke..."just box it up and we will fix it." They even pay for the shipping.

BUT, As much as I appreciate that idea I am not too fond of sending the entire gun back. Someone on another BB suggested I talk with HD Rifles in Del Rio TX. I can ship them the bolt they will take a week or so to drill and tap the sucker (as well as re-solder) with three screws for about $70.
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Old 08-10-2005 | 07:39 AM
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Why I don't own Remingtons anymore, happened to me many years ago on a very accurate 788 22-250. Shoot Ruger 77's, Winchester Super Shadow and Stevens 200's now.
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Old 08-11-2005 | 08:37 AM
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that happened to someone i knew once...he said it cost him the "biggest buck" he ever seen....
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Old 08-11-2005 | 09:47 AM
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ORIGINAL: texhookem

I would also like to know the other problems with a factory 700 versus the other major manufacterers.
I don't know if I'd call them "problems" per se, but the 700 certainly has some design shortcomings, in my opinion (and others too), that canpotentially lead to problems. Specifically I'm talking about the following:

- The aforementioned brazed on bolt handle.
- A puny little spring steel extractor (this is what I've had the most problems with). A claw or Sako style extractor would be better.
- A plunger ejector instead of a fixed blade. A minor issue, but I prefer the blade type.
- The breech is not coned which can lead to feeding problems, though in all honesty I've never had a problem.
- A bolt that requires a special tool to disassemble. The model 70 bolt, for example, can be disassembled easily by hand in the field if necessary.
- It's been a while since I owned one, but don't you have to release the safety in order to open the bolt?
- And last, but most important to me, a trigger and safety assembly that doesNOT block the firing pin. It's a matter of public record than Remington 700's have been involved in numerous lawsuits involving accidental discharges.

These things are important to me, especially the issue with the safety not blocking the firing pin. It is a factthe 700 isquite popular, though, soI guess these things are not asimportant toa lot of folks and that's fine with me. I think the real reasons they're so popular is that they're relatively inexpensive, they're easily modified to perform better and parts are readily available, they can be quite accurate out of the box, the Remington name is well known and, quite frankly,I think most people just aren't savy enough about rifles to know these shortcomings exist.
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Old 08-11-2005 | 04:10 PM
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I'll stick with Rugers, Savages-Stevens, and Winchester until they make some changes.........how old is the 721-700 design anyway? Only Remington I want is the old 600-660 in 308 or 6mm...........They used to be my favorite rifle maker......no more[]
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Old 08-11-2005 | 07:02 PM
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I think the real reasons they're so popular is that they're relatively inexpensive.
And thats whycountless people choseto use them in their $5000+ custom rifles........

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Old 08-12-2005 | 09:46 AM
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Would you provide a list of the custom rifle companies making $5,000 plus rifles on Remington 700 actions? There must be several since "countless" people choose to use them.
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Old 08-12-2005 | 10:34 AM
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I hope you are kidding? It is widely known that the remington 700 action is used in countless custom guns. A quick search on gunsamerica would probably turn up more than a few results.

But just to name a few famous gun makers who use the 700 in their guns.

Mark Bansner
David Christman
Hill Country Rifle Company
Bob Hisserich
Gene Simillion
Charlie Sisk
Virgin Valley Guns

I guess they just are not as "savy" as you and thats why they chose to use the remington 700 in their guns.
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Old 08-12-2005 | 11:48 AM
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I had trouble with their ammo, but that's it. Even the NRA gunsmithing guide from 1975, almost all the examples they show you are on 700's.
The 700's been around since the 50's or 60's, that tells me they must be a pretty good action to survive the changing trends. There's not many actions out there that survived that long without some sort of tweeking
or re-engineering. I give it a thumbs up!
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Old 08-12-2005 | 01:48 PM
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I'm quite aware that 700's are used in custom rifles,I've owned them and shot with others who owned them,but you specifically said "countless" people use custom 700's that cost $5,000 plus. Countless meanstoo numerous to count.......that's a lot. Do any of those gunmakersyou listed make $5,000 rifles on this action? Maybe so, but I bet it's the exception and not therule.I looked at Hill Country's site, they don't list any. The closest thing I saw cost $4,500. They do show a rifle costing $15,000 plus, but it's built on a Winchester Model 70.

Look, I don't want to get into anything with you. The fact is, $5000 custom rifles are not that common no matter the action, so it's doubtful that "countless" people own custom $5000 Remington 700's or WinchesterModel 70's or whatever.Now if you had said that many $1,500 -$3,000 rifles are built on this action, I'd agree wholeheartedly with you.

My apologies if I was too literal in interpreting what you posted. Take care.
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