Rifle Scopes
 

I am starting my search for a new rifle scope for my Rem 7mm Ultra Mag. I am looking at Leupold VX III and the Zeiss Conquest at this time. I'm thinking a 4.5-14 power or something in that area for western Elk hunting with an adjustable objective lense. Feed back on these or other scopes would by helpful.

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I have VIII in 3.5x10. Great scope. I'm sure others are better but I'll stick with Leopold. I've got 4 of them and never had a real problem with any of them.

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I would choose the ziess due to better lense coatings.Leupolds are fine scopes but with their japanese lenses they are just not as bright as the ziess scopes.

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I would choose Zeiss over Leupold. I don't have anything against Leupold but Zeiss scopes are very bright, very clear, and crisp. German optics are the best for a reason.

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I would choose the Leupold because I believe the overall construction to be higher quality. The zeiss may have better lens but that's only about 1% of what a scope should do.

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stubblejumper...

are those zeiss conquests a 1" or 30mm tube?

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Go with the Zeiss, they are definitely clearer than the Leupold.However if eye relief is an issue the Leupold is hard to beat.

The Conquest to my knowledge has 1" tubes.

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The Conquest does have a 1" tube. I just purchased one about a month ago for my Mod 70 7mm Rem. Mag. So far so good. I really haven't been able to tell if it is really any clearer than a Leupold yet. My stepfather has a Vari III 3.5-10x50 and I think I will put my 4.5-14x44 up against his sometime this week and see if you can really tell a difference. All and all, I dont think that the average hunter will be able to tell a difference between the two other than the $100-200 differecne. I really love my Conquest and all the features it has but I would have prefered a different reticle. And Leupolds reticle options are extremely good compared to most manufacturers. It all boils down to what you want and where you want to put however much money you wish to spend. Oh, another thing. Some people would not buy anything if it weren't made in the USA, Leupold definitely fits in to that catagory, but what surprised me what the the Conquest was assembled (parts, such as glass and inner workings I am sure are still foreign) in the USA as well. Whether or not the makes a difference. Hope this helps....

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Pyral-Leupold are assembled in america using japanese lenses.Some of the ziess models are also assembled in america but use better lenses made in europe.So as far as buying american made products neither is totally manufactured in america but both are assembled in america.All of the american assembled ziess scopes have 1" tubes.Some of the conquest models actually have more eye relief than the leupold scopes.

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I own mostly Leupolds...great scopes! But I'm going to give the Zeiss Conquest a try for my next &quot;major&quot; scope purchase...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Jack

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Leupold has more eye relief than any other scope manufactured especially in the power ranges you are desiring...period end of story. The lenses are purchased on the worldwide commodity market --optical glass being such so they can come literally from anywhere and are manufactured to Leupold Specs. The entire scope tube...erector everything inside is manufactured in the USA...Zeiss is just assembled here like Swarovski and any other German/austrian scope that want to avoid the huge German labor costs ...Schmidt and Bender is an assembly operation in Germany. Stubble I wish you would get off your Leupold bashing tirade..its really getting kind of Old. I have owned all types of scopes and they are the only ones that really stand up to recoil and they have the best warranty. I don't see a gnats difference between them optically and the other 1&quot; German/Austrian whatever scopes. I have not owned a conquest scope but owned the last generation they made in 1&quot; and it was a Diavari 3x9MC...I got rid of it no difference in optics and little eye relief plus it weighed 15 oz. Another thing my Leupolds have metal adjustment covers ...plastic on the Conquest.

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I've finaly a chance got some serious range time in shooting a Leupold 4.5~14 and a Zeiss Conquest 4.5~14. I would choose the Leupold over the Zeiss. The only good thing with the Zeiss if the paralax adjustment on the turret, and the eye relief doesn't change when altering the power setting. I don't like the adjustment knobs for windage and elevation- no reference numbers! The Zeiss does have positive clicks like the Leupold and are easy to reference back, but the hash marks are tough to read. Didn't see any difference in clarity shooting out to 300 yards, had some issues shooting into the rising sun with the benifit going to the Leupold.


Edited by - AJ300MAG on 09/26/2002 10:13:23

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Stubblejumper, have to stop you there. Leupold gets there lens from several outsourced suppliers just from the same spec. Just a few months ago in Germany, I saw a Purchase Order on the table of the salesman of that company from Leupold. I couldn't get anymore details and can't be sure. They keep that info pretty tight zipped. They better or my company would have to break out the lawyers. Gov. Contracts would have a huge problem also. As far as quality, I don't know, I have used Leupold my whole life, and can't see any difference between the two. As far as brighter, according to a Optical reflection meter, it says no as far as a rep from Germany says. Anything past 94% transmittion is really hard for us mere mortals to see.

I say if you got the cash, you can't go wrong with Zeiss. It would be a toss up for me.

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Oldelkhunter-I don't believe my calling leupolds fine scopes was bashing them.I do however prefer ziess and swarovski.I pointed out that leupold uses imported lenses because some people were mistakenly under the impression that leupolds are an entirely american product and buy them solely for that reason.

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Whoops, my mistake stubble, I didn't mean to start an argument with the mis-interpreted information a buddy gave me! Its getting harder and harder to find an all American company nowadays isn't it!

&quot;Clutz by Nature, Hospitalized by Fate...&quot;

Pyral

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..NIKON..BUSHNELL...That would be my choice..:)..

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Go with the Leupold,quality and a lifetime warranty to boot.I have no experience with the new models.I'm sure they have been redesigned and tested under all condition.I think a Leupold would be a good choice, whichever model you choose.Ruger Redhawk

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There was a time when German optics were the best in the world, but that has NOT been true since lenses began to be made on automatic computer-controlled equipment. Now, any company that has such equipment can produce lenses as good as anyone's. The Japanese have had world-class quality control since just after WWII, and still do!

Keep yore powder dry!!