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vrmntslyr 07-20-2005 02:04 AM

Whats the best handgun?
 
What's the Best Handgun?

I relize that this is a rather difficult question, but I still want to get some opinions. I know a fair amount about rifles and have more than enough (if that's possible). However, I know very little about handguns and I would like to purchase one mainly for self-defence.

Basically I am looking for a pistol with a great deal of accuracy (I plan on target shooting with it) and in a good caliber (one I can use for target shooting/self-defence).

HighDesertWolf 07-20-2005 02:24 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
if you dont reload the best calibers that are abundant and are rather cheap in price compared to other calibers are 9mm and 40s&w I would recommend either a glock, Springfield XD or a Taurus Millenium Pro in either of those calibers. If you reload or money isnt a problem than go with a 45 acp in a springfield or kimber 1911 i feel those are the two best in the market or if you prefer light weight polymer frame guns then go with a glock or a Taurus millenium pro. IMO 45 acp is the best choice for self defense.

Worc 07-20-2005 05:09 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
If you are looking at semi auto's, I would go with a 9mm Sig Sauer. Thisgun has a very combination of accuracy and reliabilty. The 9 is cheaper and has a little less recoil than the .40 sw.. The Beretta is also a pretty accurate combat pistol.

Virginia7 07-20-2005 07:15 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
Get a Sig! :D
Recommend a 9mm. Check out models 239 & 229.
Sigs are very reliable, and accurate. I have a model 239, and IMO it is the finest pistol I've ever owned. Sigs can cost a little more than many others, but they're worth it.
Links:
Sig website: http://www.sigarms.com
Sig forum: http://sigforum.com/

Charley 07-20-2005 08:30 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
Asking what is the "best" handgun is kinda like asking how high is up. Going against the rest of the opinons here, but if you don't have much handgun experience consider starting with a decent revolver of autopistol in .22 LR. Ammo is cheap, so you can expend enough to become a decent shot. Ruger's autopistol would be a good starting place.
Walking before running is always a good idea.

ajg2425 07-20-2005 08:41 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
i was watching a espisode of cops and some broad cop found a .44magnum on this guy and she went on to say that its the most powerful handgun in the world.

Moose_Maximus 07-20-2005 08:56 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
I'm not sure there's a hard-and-fast answer to this question.

To my mind, the "best" handgun is the one that you shoot well, is reliable, and you have confidence in.

Try a few on for size, to see how they balance in your hand. I've seen some high-end pistols (revolvers and semis) that just felt awful to me; I'm sure they're fine weapons, but just not right for me.

On the other hand, the Hi-Power design feels like it was made for me. Because it feels good, and because mine has never failed me, I shoot it pretty well. But that's not to say you'd feel the same about it.

If accuracy is really high on your list, a long-barrelled revolver might be more to your liking...but it will then be a compromise with how readily you can swing it around in a self-defense situation.

Lots of variables in this equation. The good news is, it's fun to check out a bunch of different guns!

TScottW99 07-20-2005 11:33 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
Go to the range and rent several types of handguns. Try them on for size, see which ones you like to shoot, which ones you feel comfortable with. (just remember that range guns are usally very dirty so don't judge reliablity on them)

The list of good guns in huge, Glock, Sig, H&K, S&W, Ruger, XD, CZ, etc... etc... The trick is finding the one that you feel comfortable with and can shoot. Don't forget the good ol' wheel guns like the Ruger GP100, S&W 19/66. These allow you to "plink" with .38spcl and use .357mag for defense.

Right now I carry a Glock 22 .40S&W as a duty weapon and a Glock 27 .40S&W as an off duty weapon. I have 100% confindence in both.

Briman 07-20-2005 12:28 PM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 

What's the best handgun?
1911A1


Basicly I'm looking for a pistol with a great deal of accuracy
1911A1


and in a good caliber (one I can use for target shooting/self defense).
.45 acp

redhead522 07-20-2005 02:10 PM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
Well vrmntslyr, a question like this can easily open Pandora's box. The problem is, there are many excellent manufacture's and products out there. First off, are you looking for a revolver or semi-auto pistol?

If you're going for a revolver, it can be hard to go wrong. Since their design is so simple, they've been around for so long, and they're easy to operate. A few manufacures include S&W, Ruger, Taurus, Colt, Beretta, etc.

If you're looking for a semi-auto pistol, that's a whole different ball game.Design and features varies from one manufacture to another. Not that I'm against semi-autos at all, (I actually prefer them), it's just that they vary quite a bit more. A list of high qualitymanufactures include Ruger, Smith & Wesson, Glock, Heckler & Koch, Sig, Beretta, Kimber, Colt, etc (a few other manu. that I have no personal experience with, but are supposed to be good are CZ, Walther, FN, etc)Rugers are a good starter, as they are affordable (half the price of some of the above!) but still excellent quality and rugged. Glocks are used by the bulk of police forces and Austrian Army, as they are light weight, reliable,and are easy to use. Sigsare used by a number of police forces, and was the only pistol besides Beretta to pass the US Military tests, though did not win the bid. Beretta is used by the USA military and various police forces. H&K is used by Military special ops, and agreed by many to be thebest (and carry a hefty pricetag.) S&W are all around great guns and used by police forces and the FBI (or at least atone time they were, I can't keep track any more.) Kimbers are viewed as the best 1911s on the market, and are used by the LAPD SWAT team. Colt isup there with Kimber, but costs an arm and a leg.

It all depends on want you want, andhow much you want to spend. Don't just take our conjecture on it though, for more info I recommend you check out...

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg00-e.htm

enthusiast 07-20-2005 03:10 PM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
For what it's worth, my Beretta brigidaire 9mm shoots great, looks great, ammo is dirt cheap, AND you can still find 15 round clips to boot.

redhead522 07-20-2005 03:58 PM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 

AND you can still find 15 round clips to boot
That isn't saying much, sinceClinton's Brady law expired last September. High capacity magazines have been produced for civilians by the truckload ever since.

Bulzeye 07-22-2005 11:05 PM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
If any gun is to be used for defense, it's most valuable feature will be reliability.
It has to go bangEVERY time you pull the trigger. Period.
Several manufactureres have been mentioned to satisfy that.

Next of importance for any gun is how it fits you.
It should be comfortable, and when you bring it up to eye level it should naturally be aligned with your eyes pretty well.

Minimum Calibers for defense:
Revolver=38
Semiauto=9mm(w/ fast hollowpoints, otherwise use a 40 or bigger)
Still use hollow points on the big stuff too.

Decide on a type. Revolver vs Semiauto.
Learnthe pros and cons of both before you decide.

Choose an action type:
Single, traditional double, double only, or striker-fired (like double only).

Other things to think about:
How important is ammo capacity?
How important is the ability to reload quickly?
Do you want night sights for defense?
(Even if you use a light to identify your target, you'll still need to be able to see your sights too.)
Do you want a manual safety? (Nice feature, but not necessary)
Do you want a magazine disconnect safety? (I don't)
Magazine disconnect safeties disable the gun if the magazine is removed from the gun. You cannot fire even if there is a round in the chamber and you have the safety off. Some people, mostly cops I think, like the feature because it can be usedin a defensive way to disable their own gun if a bad guy is wrestling it out of their hands. I personally don't want to get caught in the middle of a reload without being able to fire the bullet that is still in my gun.

Here's another tip to help you be prepared when things go really bad.
Learn as many different action types, and models of handguns as you can. Learn how the safties work, how to operate different cylinder latches, where the magzine release is, and what a loaded chamber indicator looks like. You may be able to make a move if the bad guy's gun is on safe or has an empty chamber.(risky, but out of the question if you seethe gun is ready to fire)Also, you never know when you may end up having to fight with someone else's gun in your hands. There won't time for a lesson, it'll probably be dark, and you'll be so pumped up on the moment that figuring out something new will be a real challenge.

Welcome to handgunning.

biscuit jake 07-23-2005 06:54 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
Old fuddy duddy here with a vote for the .45 auto 1911. If you are brand new to the pistolero stuff, she can take a little warming up to; depends on the shooter. Mrs Biscuit did well with it.... when she kept here eyes open shooting.

If the rock & roll of the heavier calibers is a permanent problem for anyone, then even the older mid bore rounds are better than throwing rocks and in good pistols they can be very accurate. One of my early career lessons learned was when a peer dropped a perp with the much aligned 38 spec 158 plane jane lead round nose. It even over penetrated. Marksmanhip, marksmanhip, marksmanship

Paul L Mohr 07-23-2005 12:16 PM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
I had a browning High Power 9 mm. It was VERY accurate and reliable. No double action, pretty simular to a 1911. MY brother in law had a Glock .40. Very nice gun but was not real accurate. Plenty accurate for self defense though. It had one flaw that if you didn't grip it correctly it would not cycle right. You could not "limp wrist" it. Other than that this gun was a tank and you just coudn't make it mess up. Sort of like a the AK of handguns I always thought. This was 10 years ago however.

I honestly think the best defense handgun is a quality .357 revolver. You can even get them in full frame 8 shot versions. It is a very proven round and the revolver is Ultra reliable and simple to use. It does take some practice to shoot well in double action though.

I would say a nice 12 guage pump is the best home defense weapon. I don't own a handgun any more. If someone breaks into my house I'm grabbing my mossberg and shoving a few turkey loads in it!

Paul

Cervids 08-04-2005 10:43 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 

Just my 2 cents:

I am very impressed with my Steyr M40. It has a “well-supported chamber” having a very strong lock up system originally designed for 40 S&W not the 9mm scaled up for 40 cal. production. The well-supported chamber provides an added measure of safety and is important if you want to reload. The barrel has conventional rifling so you can shoot lead if you want to.

The M40 is a true double action pistol as pulling the trigger continues to cock the striker throughout the stroke until released.However, the action stroke is short an feels more like a single action with 1/8”” of travel and a quick reset (Reset Action System). Standard trigger pull is 5lbs.


The slide is tennifer hardened and rides on steel rails (complete steel sub assembly) inside the pistol, it does not directly contact any of the fiberglass-reinforced polymer.The rails are beveled at 45 degrees for bore axis even lower than a Glock.Accordingly, the felt recoil, even in 40 S&W, is minimal with very little muzzle flip.Slide to frame fit is excellent. There are NO rattles of any kind.The grip is a very comfortable 111 degree angle with a nice indent at the topwhich seems to nest the pistol into your hand very well.The pistol is very accurate out of the box. It eats all ammunition.

There is a safety on the trigger for c/c purposes similar to Glocks. There is also manual safety above the trigger guard.When engaged, a safety indicator/release mechanism extends pushes down into the trigger guard in front of the trigger. The indicator is easily felt and has a very visible white dot.You activate it with your off hand, and deactivate with a quick and easy upward and away motion (from the trigger) with your trigger finger, very quick.There is plenty of room for the manual safety in the trigger guard. The manual safety system is similar to that found in the M-1 Garand, M-14, Ruger Mni-14/30 etc.As mentioned, the M40 has a manual safety if you want to use it. It also has 3 passive reset action passive safeties: 1) the trigger safety; 2) drop; and 3) a firing pin block.Additionally, there is also an integrated key lock adjacent to the take down lever (2 keys are supplied).There is a loaded chamber indicator that protrudes, and a slot milled into the top of the slide that allows you see chamber status.

You will either like the sights or hate them.However, the sights are steel, not plastic, and can be easily swapped.(Sight radius is 6.22”.)

The rail is proprietary.USASteyr lists an adapter but it is sold out.Bummer.

The entire gun is well rounded and has no levers or edges to catch on holsters or clothing.Besides the 40 S&W, Steyr makes a 9mm (M9) and .357 Sig (M357).There are some “S” (small) series pistols.

The pistol is manufactured in Austria by Steyr Mannlicher which has been around since 1864.I’m sure these pistols would be more popular if Steyr had better advertising. IMHO, at $299-400 you cannot find a better shooting, manufactured, or engineered pistol.Again, IMHO this pistol should be considered among the Sigs, H&K’s and other top pistol brands.Buy a Steyr with a 10,000+ serial number, as these are later production guns with ejection and trigger pull bugs worked out.

No, I don't work for Steyr, I just think these gunsare awesome.

T/C fan! 08-05-2005 10:33 PM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
One thing thats not been brought up is,do you have family living elsewhere in thehouse? Mostdefensive handgun calibers are capable of pentetrating walls and putting your family in harms way. If thats not the case, I'd suggest a medium framed revlover in 357mag. Plenty of punch and will more than do the job with just about anytype of ammo. If you have family in the house, I'll agree with Paul, a scatter-gun is what to go with.

Paul L Mohr 08-06-2005 08:09 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
I read an article once where they shot a 44 mag at dry wall and it did the equivalent of going thru like 4 apartments or something. That is definately something to consider when using a selfdevence weapon. Especially a 357, 44 or the corbon 9mm type stuff.

They do make specialized rounds for this though, I think they are by Glazer or something like that. Magsafes sounds right? They fragment and don't penitrate bariers as well.

Paul

rick_reno 08-06-2005 08:31 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
1911's are used for targets and defense. I've found my Les Baer to be 100% reliable and with the 1.5 inch package it's also very accurate.

Big Al C 08-06-2005 08:36 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
As has already been said, this is really opening up a can of worms!
IMO a medium-frame revolver in .357 magnum with a 4" barrel is a great tool for target shooting and self-defense. You can shoot .38 Spl. wadcutters at targets and to get used to shooting a handgun. Then load full house magnums for defense. (Just be sure to practice some with them as well.)
Another possibility to think about is buying a .22 in the same type of gun as your defense gun, and doing most (but not all!) of your practice with the .22. This way you have a great excuse to buy twonew guns!
I'm not saying that autoloaders are a bad idea, they just take longerto get used to. A .45 1911A1 makes a great defense gun, andcan be very accurate as well. (But thegood ones will cost more than a comparable revolver.)
Try everything you possibly can, then take your time deciding. Good Luck!

okcmco 08-06-2005 09:04 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
In revolver (price no object) Colt Python in .357. Beautiful gun, superlative cartridge for defense and target. If 800 bucks is too much find a used S&Wmodel 19.
In semiauto (Money no object) A kimber 1911. If 1000 bucks is too much try a Glock 17.
okcmco

cherokee_outfitters 08-06-2005 09:12 AM

RE: Whats the best handgun?
 
Fora beginner I would suggest a small frame revolver like a Ruger GP-100 in a 357mag. Also for self defense the double action will be alot less complicated than a semi auto. When the situation arises all you have to do is pull the trigger and not have to worry about loading the weapon or taking the safety off. Don't spray and pray kill the bugger out right.


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