Anyone have real experience with these in 12 gauge?

As in.............

how much do they cost?

are they really as accurate as claimed?

what kind of energy are we talking about?

I might want to blow some $$$ this summer and see how they dial-in & do in my H&R Ultra due to their flat shooting claim. If I could really verify the flat shooting, I could probobly be tempted at a price.

Uncle Matt,

I too have been interested in trying the SST sabots. Here are the facts to consider...

The reason no else has answered is that they have just became available at some retailers in the past few weeks and are still difficult to locate...

Here is one current source I found...
http://www.talonarms.com/talonarms/index.php?main_page=product_info&currency=USD& amp;products_id=137

The SST'sare an off shoot of the development of the H2K. The H2K contained a 250gr xtp. These new Sabots contain 300gr SST's instead. (My experience with the H2K was disappointing, although they were in the top of class in terms of trajectory they were very erradic as far as accuracy, often throwing random flyers).

TRAJECTORY...
They do not shoot any flatter than the current topperformingSabots on the market. The advertising for the trajectory ismisleading. They quote the trajectory from (-.09in) at the barrel, (if you figure out how to accomplish that let me know). Even with the extra inch they are dead on at 150 and -6.7in at 200 To you and me in the real world that means -7.6inlow at 200.

TRAJECTORY COMPARISON...
The flatest consistent competitor to the Hornady SST would be the Remmington Core Lokt Ultra's.They are once again misleading in their advertisement of trajectory. They qoute their trajectory from -1.5in at thebarrel. These sabots areare dead on at 150 and -6.2in at 200. To you andme that would be -7.7in low at 200.
That means that the current Core Lokt'salreadyoffer nearly identicaltrajectory to the new SST's.

VELOCITY AND ENERGY COMPARISON....
Although these two competitors have nearly identical trajectories one must keep in mind they are shoot very different projectiles. The SST's are 300 gr, While the
Core Lokt's are launching 385 gr.
That means only one thing is possible. The SST's are slower, and do not carry the energy, that the Core Lokt's do.
The actual #'sfor theSST's at 200ydsare velocity 1341 fps, and energy 1198 ft-lbs.
The Core Lokt's at 200 are velocity 1426 fps, and energy 1741ft-lbs.
Although both still have plenty of knock down power at 200yds for deer sized game, the Core Lokt's with an additional 500ft-lbs of power at 200yds would be welcome comfortif one were tomakea poorly placed shot.

COST
They will be between 11-15$....in line with most current high performance Sabots.

CONCLUSION....
Is the SST an new ballistic breakthrough in Sabot technology? NO.... Does any of this tell us anything about the accuracy of the SST's or the Core Lokt's out of any particular gun?..Absolutely not.

Will I be testingthe SST'sfor accuracy vs. the Core Lokt'sas soon as I can.......YES!

Hornady makes a 250 grain and 300 grain SST for .50 caliber muzzleloaders. Are these the same bullets loaded in the 12 ga. sabot slugs? If so, there is quite a bit of information on the performance of these pills in the muzzleloading section of this forum.

Yesthey are ...the correlation would work fine for comparing performance on impact at known distances/speed.
However, the entire shell and sabot are completely different, not to mention different powders, rifling, guns etc......making a comparison to muzzleloader accuracy would be completely meaningless.

Roskoe,

Along those lines, I was shooting the 300gr XTP's out of muzzleloder yesterday. The accuracy had no correlation to the performance of the Hornady H2K's Sabots (which contain the identical bullet), when shot out of my slug gun.